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 Post subject: Re: Why do we buy fakes?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 12:50 pm 
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This has been a very interesting topic and one that seems everyone is passionate about. I´ve tried some time to not get involved, but couldn´t resist.

To answer the innitial question.
1. Young people do it. One reason is money of course and another is ignorance. These days even more than ever their world spins around fashion. Values revolve around appearances not quality. Put these points together and FAKE stuff actually start to sound like the best idea in the world for them. Inexperience plays a role too, but all that will change over time as their finances strengthens and knowledge of quality (and bad quality) grows.

2. POSERS DO IT!!! Everything we do reflects on our character, that inlcudes what we buy. So essentially wearing FAKES shows that the wearer is FAKE!!! Pure and simple. They want the recognition and attention that owning a high end products bring without the cost.

"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" IMO true if infact it is imitation, but FAKE is not imitating. It´s a copy, an illegal mockary of an original that´s trying to POSE as an original. It violates trademark laws and opens the door for more crime and cons. I hope everyone who is supporting the FAKE business knowingly, will some day get ripped of by a FAKE copy to realise later that they got screwed. Just to learn a point.

We shouldn´t forget that brands like Breitling invested a lot of money, time (over a century), research and their professional craftmanship to produce these masterpieces for us to enjoy. All that comes with a cost. All that heritage should be honoured not made a mockery of with accepting FAKES.

If you say you want the style but don´t want to pay for it, then buy an actual replica. One that is what it is and not something trying to pretend to be something it´s not. There are some brands like Alpha that make look alike replicas. That way you get the same style and it´s legal too. Also It would be honest since you aren´t trying to fool anyone. But you wouldn´t do that. Would you??? Then everyone would know right away it´s not the original and that´s not what POSERS are looking for. So trying to convince that you only want the style is BULSHHH.

One good idea is to buy a fashion brand watch that borrow features from the main watch brands. Then you actually have on authentic and pretty well made time piece that looks good and could also gives you pride in ownership. Like Guess that has a model with similar style to Skyracer and it looks very stylish in it´s own right too. Three years ago I bought a Marc Echo watch that borrows some features from a Navitimer, it was very similar in style. I got a lot of praise for it´s look and it wasn´t FAKE.

To say I (I think others will agree) can´t take the heat of wearing a fake couldn´t be further from the truth. Who would even know? Since most couldn´t tell the difference anyway. Right? I can´t always tell the difference myself. Wrong! And here´s why it shows character to not go down that road. I WOULD KNOW! (Like so many others here has posted earlier.) I buy quality products for ME to enjoy. Not to POSE for others. I get excited about owning such cool things like Lings. I Couldn´t care less what others think. And as I get no kicks in owning FAKE crap, buying them would be just POSING for others. In my early teens in ignorance I bought a pair of fake jeans and cuople of t-shirts. I wore them couple of times and then threw them out. Nobody knew they were fakes but ME. They brought me no enjoyment or pride in ownership. So why wear them? then I saved a little and bought the original jeans. Enjoyed them for 3 years.

I want to underline that it´s not about expensive stuff only. Just the other day I bought new pair of white sneakers on sale for "a whopping" 25€ and got big kicks. Although cheap, they´re real and well made from a quality brand.

All this of course applies to everything. Why buy crap that you don´t enjoy???
I apologise for the long and slitely obsessed rant. Just my views on the subject and they shouldn´t be taken too seriously even though I got a little too carried away.

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Some just like the fun of high end brands and like to be able to have a watch box with 40 replica's for the cost of one decent genuine watch,a hobby to some actually.

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I realize that, but still all POSERS and FAKES!!! They should get a REAL hobby not a FAKE one. :lol: Speaks volumes of their beliefs, values and character. Doesn´t it?

They even have their own forums where they talk about and compare each others cheap FAKE crap, and with pride. You know some of them talk about us as fools for paying so much for watches and such. I surprisingly understand and deeply respect that opinnion. Because value for money is a very personal thing. What I don´t understand is why in the world would they then want to buy FAKE (they are not replicas) copies and portrait to belong in the same group as owners of the original. That´s a contradiction of the centery. It only validates my point of POSERS and FAKES even more!!! :nana:

...And here I go again with the rant. :lol: I might sound harsh, but really I´m just shooting the breeze here, nothing too serious.

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Very good thread however i am choosing to stay out of this!

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Anoon wrote:
I'm here because I like watches in general. If it looks good and gives you that different style I'm interested. Alot of pieces in the breitlign line offer that, I also love panarei's. Like I said I also value the worth of a dollar, not all geniune watches cost over $1000 that is frankly the most I would ever spend on a watch..

Wow! willing to spend upwards to a $1000 for a watch? Heck why not look for a knock off of that model for allot less.
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If you are going to charge alot form something that has an alternative for much less, I will simpley go for the alternative that as some of you said you can't tell the difference..

I can agree with that but I must ask why are you willing to spend upwards to $1000 for something that tells the time when you can find an alternate (it still tells time) ie. a cheap quartz watch at your local department store for $25.00 or is it safe to say that we all have our limits. Your limit respectfully so happens to be $1000 whereas others might have a higher limit.

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So like one day in the next few years when you really can't tell the difference between a fake and real how are you going to feel knowing you are paying thousands when you can get the same thing for what it's really worth a few hundred dollars.

At some point in time we have to accept the fact that you cant always believe there is an alternate to the real deal. Hundreds of people have suffered from consuming either knock off medication, infant formula and other goods. Heck why work when I'm sure you can find "replicated" currency for pennies on the dollar. In all cases "FAKES" are illegal and should be treated as such.

I guess there are exceptions because I knew a girl that admitted to misrepresenting......oppps I digress,.. I think I best stop here.

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****Post deleted cause I don't give a damn what anyone else thinks except me, but I did learn quite a lot about the members here as a result.


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BreitSpark wrote:
Without fakes, I would have bought and regretted an Omega Seamaster.
Without fakes, I would have bought and regretted a Chonomat Evolution (beautiful watch, just not for me)
Without fakes, I would have bought and regretted a Navitimer (beautiful watch, just not for me)



I'm sorry, but this has got nothing to do with you.

Without fakes everyone would pay less for a genuine watch
Without fakes people wouldn't be ripped off every day buying what they feel is a genuine watch
Without fakes there would be less illegal forced labour in many parts of the world
Without fakes there would be fewer deaths and injuries every year (not watches obviously, but safety equipment, drugs and everything in between).

Really glad you didn't buy a watch you might have regretted though :!:

Oh, and I don't have any fake artwork on my walls. I have some genuine originals, and I have some licensed prints.


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I LOVE this topic. It is so very simple.

Whether it be watches, gemstones, clothing, whatever....

You cannot fool yourself. If you knowingly wear, use, consume counterfit things you are trying to do the impossible which is to fool yourself.

Either you are a Fake, or you've unfortunately been taken by one. I empathise with the latter,although it was avoidable.

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BreitSpark wrote:
Ship of fools. Think I have learnt what I needed. Enjoy the artwork. :poke:

On that note I think we've reach the end of the line on this one and if I'm aboard this ship of fools I sure hope the captain is issuing real life jackets.


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It does amuse me the way threads like this attract people who think they'll change people's opinions by giving some half-baked reasons about how fakes serve some vital role in the protecting people from making a bad purchase. :lol: Never mind......

The world is full of different people with different ideas and beliefs, and no amount of banging on about a specific point of view will change opinions. And with that in mind I really do think we need to move along and let this troll-attraction of a thread just die away.

PS - And as for the "ship of fools" line from our latest contributor to this thread - well, yeah I'd agree we do get a few fools on here from time to time, but generally they don't tend to hang around too long.

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And with that in mind I really do think we need to move along and let this troll-attraction of a thread just die away.

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I'm sorry, but this has got nothing to do with you.

Without fakes everyone would pay less for a genuine watch
Without fakes people wouldn't be ripped off every day buying what they feel is a genuine watch
Without fakes there would be less illegal forced labour in many parts of the world
Without fakes there would be fewer deaths and injuries every year (not watches obviously, but safety equipment, drugs and everything in between).

Really glad you didn't buy a watch you might have regretted though :!:


Well said!! I initially thought about buying a fake Breitling to see if I really liked the weight, feel, and overall wearability. But there are much larger issues at stake here. The fact that there are fakes out there has genuine repercussions on those of use trying to buy the real thing. Especially those of us who like to be gently used models from individuals or online retailers. That is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

You can't buy a fake and pretend that you are not hurting anyone.

There are plenty of watches out there in the same price range as replicas (and are probably better made) that will match the size, weight, and/or style of almost any high-end watch you might want to wear. Some of them are extremely close to the watch that "inspired" their design (but with the actual manufacturer's name on them). Go buy one of those and try it out. OR, do what I did and get a used real thing. If you don't like it, you can sell it for most of what you paid for it, and you will probably loose less money than what it cost to get a halfway-decent replica.

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