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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:51 pm 
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The funny thing is that I thought I bought a watch for life that never needed repair or tweaking. .

No you bought a finely crafted mechanical timepiece, that will last a lifetime but will need a full servicing every 5-8 years and because it only looses 1-6 seconds in a 24 hour period, it is a testament of the movement design and absolute skill of the watchmaker who assembled it. ALL MECHANICAL WATCHES ARE LIKE THIS to one degree or another. You also bought a piece of wrist jewelry that is a sign of your personal taste or status finacially.


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Yes, you guys are right; I don’t see fun in this at all. I want a watch to wear and needs to have the right time. I also like a timeless model. Spending 2 years of savings on a Breitling was not smart.


You are correct in the sense that you are not a watch lover / collector, I would encourage you to sell your Breitling and use the clock on your cell phone or buy a Quartz. Mechanicals are something that elude you and I dont believe you would ever be happy with. Please keep in mind though that you arent going to see any difference, overall, in the different luxury brands.... so if you think trading the Breitling for a Rolex is going to solve your issue, your going to be disappointed. If you think a cheaper auto, like a Tag would be a better buy, your really going to dislike the loss in seconds. Get over it or get a quartz.

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You buy a watch for having the correct time (do I go wrong already?). Having a Breitling you can't see the running parts. I think if you are into mechanical watches it is the ultimate thing to see. If you could see the parts, I can see the point that people are trying to make here for the love of Mechanical watches. To me it is no fun to adjust the time every week because it is a pain in the ass which I mentioned before. The other thing I can’t get over is is that I have to spend around $500 to have my watch serviced in 3 to 5 years. Honestly that doesn’t show off to me as having a great watch around your wrist.
If I could turn back the time (maybe if I keep the watch on its side long enough it might go back in time :)), I would have purchased the quartz version. The only reason I bought the automatic is because I thought it was a smarter purchase, so I don’t have to change the batteries anymore which means the watch keeps the water resistance. Overall the watch might end up at Breitling (4 weeks) to be adjusted anyway which means they are going to open it up. A battery is overall cheaper than having it serviced (and last longer).


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If I could turn back the time (maybe if I keep the watch on its side long enough it might go back in time :)), I would have purchased the quartz version.


LOL.. :lol:

Sounds like a quartz might be what you need. Youll still need a new battery every 2-3 years unless you get a colt quartz. That battery lasts 8 years. If you arent happy with what you have, just sell it. Dumping a relatively new watch isnt as uncommon as you might think. Sure, youll lose some money, but oh well.. It just means you end up paying more for the one you want more. In the grand scheme of things, its not that big of a deal. Live and learn.

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I just read on the Seiko website they have an automatic (spring drive) that is off by ±1 sec a day. You guys must really love that. :wink: At least I think that is impressive.
I knew they could make something better than COSC.
Hey, another question, why does it take so long to get your watch back?


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I just read on the Seiko website they have an automatic (spring drive) that is off by ±1 sec a day. You guys must really love that. :wink: At least I think that is impressive.
I knew they could make something better than COSC.
Hey, another question, why does it take so long to get your watch back?


A spring drive is not a fully mechanical watch. It uses a capacitor to store the energy, very similar to the battery concept, but less accurate. Breitling SQ users often report less than 10 seconds per year.

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I just read on the Seiko website they have an automatic (spring drive) that is off by ±1 sec a day. You guys must really love that. :wink: At least I think that is impressive.


My Steelfish is achieving that and yes it is impressive. :)

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Throw an ad in the Buy / Sell / Trade section and please don't buy another watch until you have researched and can buy a product that meets your expectations.

I'm sure that members on here will be interested.


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Sorry kpruim, but it seems to me that you just want something to tell the time with super accuracy while needing very little interaction from yourself, while at the same time also having a fancy name on it.

Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with that at all, but what it does mean is that you certainly aren't a watch enthusiast. And again there is nothing wrong with that either! :lol:

Best bet would be to sell the watch to someone who will appreciate it, buy something much cheaper (and quartz!) for yourself, and spend the excess cash on something you are into....... or a nice holiday or something. One financial mistake over the course of a lifetime isn't too bad, so just just put this one down to experience.

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Well said, Roff and D8, fully agree.
We don't force anybody into becoming a watch enthusiast!

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Good Evening Gentlemen

I fear I have nothing to say that will enhance the intellectual value of this most interesting of debates. However, I felt I must compliment you all on the obvious depth of your knowledge of the 'heartbeat' of our beloved 'Lings; I have learnt a great deal by purely reading your wise words and luxuriating in the cut and thrust of your debating. I thank you kindly.
Whilst I have total respect for all the views expressed, I have to say my affinity lies with the philosophy that my 'Lings are close to living things; they 'breathe' by the action of my arm movement and, maybe, even have a 'soul'. I guess, like all living things, they're not absolutely perfect. But, for sure, they're perfect enough for me, a mere human.
Thanks for listening to my romantic waffle.......back to my Mills and Boon

Good weekend chaps
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kpruim wrote:
The point that I'm trying to make is that I am from Holland living in the US now. In the 80's we bought Swatch watches for $20 in Holland. Now we laugh at it because we thought at the time we had Swiss watches. Knowing now that my $4000 watch (or for some people even more) has a movement that comes from a Swatch owned company makes me almost sick. :shock:


Sounds like you're worried about the parent company. Not necessary. Often times, parent companies are holding organizations that do not (necessarily) directly attempt to influence build/design choices. If you think that the watch you wear has a Swatch Watch movement in it, well, not much I can say there.

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All I wonder is where the value of the watch is. Is it just because it is a Breitling or is there really something special inside or outside this watch?


It depends on how you define "special". I suppose I could pick on some minor detail that bothers me, but that doesn't necessarily classify it as a "problem".

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Just don't get me wrong, I think a Ferrari owner that finds out he has a Toyota engine in his car...


Would you buy a Lexus if you knew that?

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On top of that I think (and please tell me if I'm wrong) that 6 seconds a day is a lot. 36 Years later and we are still going by the -4/+6 seconds rule. I just can't believe that they couldn’t make a more accurate movement in this time period. It is just what one website said: “Most likely all the watches out there will qualify but the manufacturer just doesn’t want to go through the certification process”.


Not true. Use THX as an example. Audio gear to pass this must be designed from inception to be a THX piece. This isn't an issue of throwing a few bucks at a committee to rubber-stamp the units. It's a design choice, made to exude quality. Do others compete? Sure, but that doesn't take away from the real article.

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I know I should have looked more into this before I bought the watch but on the other side I would like to understand your guys perspective and excitement on Breitling watches.


With all due respect, it sounds like you need to evaluate what's really important to you with any purchase prior to making one. Nobody can be all things to everyone.

Back to the original point, an in-house movement doesn't automatically translate into anything special. In fact, if we are to really nitpick, nothing ever built is really truly original. Only a certain assemblage of pre-existing parts in a unique way makes the whole different.

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