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Ok, am I the only one who gets pissed to see these "new" members abusing our site for the sole purpose of listing a watch in the Buy, Sale, Trade section??

I think there should be a control where you arent allowed to advertise a watch for sale unless you have CONTRIBUTED to the group discussion, several times. Most of these people only have 1 to 2 posts (only in the sale section) are the only post they ever make. And even more than that are the rediculous prices that some of them are asking. Now I agree that anyone can ask what ever they want, but a lot of these "1 posters" seem to be playing on the fact that another new Breitling lover might not know what a particular watch is actually worth and jump on thier "deal". $6800 for a SA BS... gimme a break. $4000 for a discontinued and not that popular, smaller, non serviced Breitling... yeah right.

I say CONTRIBUTE, or GO AWAY.

..rant over...

Scott

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Breitling Steelfish(silver)
Panerai PAM 312
Bell & Ross BR03-92 Phantom
Steinhart BreitlingSource LE #5/15

I would agree with more posts before listing a sale item. I have seen this rule at another forum where you need posts plus days of membership before you can post in the for sale area.

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Fair point Scott

I don't know if there could or should be any rules as such.

It is, of course, a simple case of courtesy to establish oneself before either being too forceful in the forums or offering items for sale.

Easiest way to deal with is to ignore the threads which either offend or offer items for sale when a member doesn't fulfil this criteria.

Gentle rant over....too

(I'm nice and calm at the moment as my wife has just been persuading me to be nice to my boss instead of biting his head off (as I should) - when he asks stupid questions. Keep smiling and they'll wonder what's up!)

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I tend to agree with the general point here (however being fairly new myself I will not push it) but I will be careful as I was recently excoriated for remarking on the aforementioned SA BS. But I agree, the marketplace should be for more established members. If for no other reason than there is a perceived level of trust here that exceeds the general internet marketplace, as though dealing with friends. That is diluted substantially when 2 post sellers become involved. Then you never know. My thoughts anyway. Agreable rant over

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Super Avenger Black Baton Dial (2009)
Bentley B04 GMT Silver Dial (2013)
Avenger Blacksteel Baton Dial (2014)

I agree too. I am a part of an mature online PS3 gaming community (note the word 'community') and we accept people into our inner sanctum only after they have been poked and prodded by the other members to see if they are 'our kind of people'. Questions are asked and answered, jokes are made and more questions are asked!

I recently retired from being a mod (after 4 years) and I can see where you are coming from. We've had people join up just to get hold of certain exclusive things from people and to bolster their 'friends list' to try and seem to be more popular.

I'm new too, but I like this forum as there is definitely a 'community' feel here - people post a lot and get to know each other (in a 'virtual' way). I'm not saying that the same rules would apply here as apply to my other forum, but I can see where you are coming from.

Slightly disjointed answer over

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Hercules

Whenever people ask about an item on eBay we always say - buy tyhe seller, not the watch, and buying from members on here should be no different.

In determining whether you want to buy a piece you should consider how well you 'know' the seller through their time and contributions on here as well as the price that they are asking and the condition of the piece.

I'm not sure how successful new members are at selling pieces unless they build a reputation first.

Remember also that as we grow there is an increasingly global presence among some very knowledgable Breitling collectors, so it's entirely possible that a physical inspection can be arranged through members.

Finally, from a purely moderator perspective, I'm a little uncomfortable restricting people's ability to post freely on this forum unless issues of personal comments, language, or inappropriateness are involved. I disagree with a lot of posts on here, but I respect people's right to post it.

Roff,

While I agree with you on a lot of your points, I still hold to my opinion of the 1-2 post ONLY people who only sign up to list a watch for sale and that it. They offer no discussion, no input, and no contribution towards the topics. I have no problem in anyone posting a watch or item for sale and ask what ever you what, but if that is the only post you make and you are only signing up on our forum for a classified ad..... I am instantly against that person. Expecially when thier only post list a watch for 20% more than they just paid for it and they only bought it to make a profit, not to enjoy it. Those people are not Breitling lovers and, IMO, do not fit into the group.

Scott

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Breitling Steelfish(silver)
Panerai PAM 312
Bell & Ross BR03-92 Phantom
Steinhart BreitlingSource LE #5/15

As a pretty new member I have to agree with this "rant". I have sold a couple items on the fourm but it was after I had established myself a little. Buying the buyer is good advice. I got lucky and a couple fourm members took a chance on me and since then I have been able to use there referances. I have to agree, I am pretty leary of a one poster. A couple posts and an intro would be nice.

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A few others too.

My thoughts....

I think it would be nice if the board had a function that would not allow anyone to post ANYTHING in any section of the site until the person formally introduces themself in the appropriate section. And so far as selling.... I think it would be cool to have a system where they had to post a minimum number of times and be a member for a certain length of time.

All in an ideal world eh?

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The rant is understandable, but like Roff said, you need to buy the seller. I don't think any of the contributing members on here would jump at buying from a first tiem poster, but they have the right to post their ads. Do I think it's right to just post a sale ad and nothing else, no, but maybe that rule could be added just like how you have to state a price.

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I don't have any strong feelings on this one either way, guys.

To me a person's "Total Posts" score is kind of like the feedback score in eBay, so I personally would not touch a sale from someone with 1 post unless they were local to me and I could inspect the goods first hand. If someone's been a member for a good few months and contributed something more than just smilies on the jokes page, then I'd be far more inclined to buy from them.

To be fair we often get members who sign up to ask just one question and once they have the answer we never hear from them again........, which is basically the question equivalent of joining just to sell something.

That's just the nature of forums, so as such, it doesn't bother me.

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While I generally agree with D8 on things (hard to disagree with him on ANY watch question --except that bubble thing he was talking about buying!!! WTF?) The point about single question members I think is a bit harsh. This IS the single best forum and community of concentrated Breitling knowlege out there. If all someone needs is a well considered answer from experts, where else would they go? This really does not detract fromthe forum, and may add to it as it does allow those with unique knowledge to share it, especially when the question is a wonder of many. Contrast this to one post sellers who contribute nothing and expect (or at least hope for) the membership to purchase their wares. Now I am as free market a person as there is. I in no way think there should be a ban on them trying to sell, rather, in the truest expression of caveat emptor, I think the impetus is on the members to simply not buy from them. Like the replicas that drive us all nuts, if no one buys them, they will disappear. A better explaination of my thoughts (my first post gave a poor expression of them after reading it later -- sorry.)

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Chronomat, Steel/Gold, MOP Dial, 2-tone band (2008)
Super Avenger Black Baton Dial (2009)
Bentley B04 GMT Silver Dial (2013)
Avenger Blacksteel Baton Dial (2014)

they should just realize no one is gonna trust a guy with 2 posts for a 5k watch...

To the point

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Aerospace Titanium & Gold - Grey Face
B-1 on Fighter/Blue Shark - Blue Face
Emergency on Pro - Yellow Face

To complete the collection:
Navi 01 46/Black leather - Black/white
Montbrillant Datora/Navi - White face


LEARNING.......EVERY DAY

Maybe my point came across a little badly there Doc!

What I was trying to say was that "single post wonders", whether just asking a question or trying to sell a watch, are just part of forum-life and neither bother me at all.

And to be fair, some of these guys selling watches may have pieces that some of the other members really want - in which case, they are good things to have around......, PROVIDED members follow the "rules" and "buy the seller" in the first instance. And let's not forget that we (as pretty serious Breitling fans) are more likely than Joe Public to know what a watch is realistically worth, so if people overprice their watches they simply won't get a buyer. If everyone is sensible with their buying (and their selling for that matter) I see no problem at all.

Just my opinion, as always.

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Driver8

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