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I am just starting to get into Breitling and was wondering what you guys know about this watch and if this is a good deal and looks authentic? Also would this be a highly wanted watch if i need to sell it in the near future for financial reasons?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NMINT-BREITLING-SUP ... 286.c0.m14

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Looks authentic. Price seems a bit high to me, but the professional is less common than a regular superocean.. Are you looking for a brushed watch? You can probably find a better deal if you look at the regular superoceans.


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I would like either whichever would be easier to sell in the future I guess if i need the money you know..? Any good links for me to look at?

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Im not suggesting that you buy either of these, but am just trying to show you some other examples. Any Breitling will be easy to sell in the future if you put it up at market value.

http://cgi.ebay.com/8-1411-BREITLING-Ae ... 286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Breitling-Colt-SS-S ... 286.c0.m14


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I agree with above - the one you found seems authentic but maybe a bit expensive. The ones RJRJRJ showed are great examples. If you intend to sell your watch when times get worse, be fully prepared from the beginning that it is really bad business. There are a very few watches that increase or maintain their "first-buy-value". Expect to loose 30-50% on what you paid.

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If you intend to sell your watch when times get worse, be fully prepared from the beginning that it is really bad business. There are a very few watches that increase or maintain their "first-buy-value". Expect to loose 30-50% on what you paid.

:yeahthat Unless you are buying something like a Patek with a limited production run of about 10 pieces, never EVER expect a watch to either make or even just hold it's value in future. Apart from Pateks, and a couple of other very high end LE models, the only other real exception to the rule are some Rolex models at the beginning of their Production run when they are only available in (artifically maintained) small quantities. But even that sorts itself out over time as models become available on the second-hand market.

Buy a watch for yourself and assume you are going to keep it. Yes it will be worth something if you ever need to sell, but you'd be ill advised to buy with thoughts of future sales in your mind.

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I agree with what everyone else is saying. Buying a watch is certainly not an investment. These are luxury purchases and should be looked at as such when considering spending your hard earned money. If you are concerned that you may need the money later, put the $$ in the bank (short term CD or money market account), ESPECIALLY in times like these :cry: . And, if you were thinking of putting the purchase on a credit card, I would say "hell no, don't be foolish :roll: ". Take it from someone who has spent their career in Finance.


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Ya I understand as I have bought and sold many Tourneau pieces and a couple of Tissot pieces and you never get very good money I just wanted to make sure that if i purchase a super ocean that its not like one of those watches that nobody else ever watns type of thing bc sometimes a watch is so different that you and maybe only a couple others ever like it that make sense? thanks guys! if anyone does have what look like a good buy for around 1,000-1,200 for superocean let me know!!!

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If you intend to sell your watch when times get worse, be fully prepared from the beginning that it is really bad business. There are a very few watches that increase or maintain their "first-buy-value". Expect to loose 30-50% on what you paid.

:yeahthat Unless you are buying something like a Patek with a limited production run of about 10 pieces, never EVER expect a watch to either make or even just hold it's value in future. Apart from Pateks, and a couple of other very high end LE models, the only other real exception to the rule are some Rolex models at the beginning of their Production run when they are only available in (artifically maintained) small quantities. But even that sorts itself out over time as models become available on the second-hand market.

Buy a watch for yourself and assume you are going to keep it. Yes it will be worth something if you ever need to sell, but you'd be ill advised to buy with thoughts of future sales in your mind.


I think you're right, Driver. A friend wanted my advice on a
watch in the $10,000 -13,000 range purely as an investment. I
suggested either an IWC Big Pilot or Rolex Deep Sea, always assuming
he could find one. His plan: Buy it, stick it in a safety deposit for ten
years, then sell it. Considering what's going on with the world
economy, I think I'll tell him to just hang onto his loot. Lots safer. :)


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If you would like to put an investment for $10K and make it as sure as possible, I'd probably suggest to stick to goldbars.

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aleister wrote:
If you intend to sell your watch when times get worse, be fully prepared from the beginning that it is really bad business. There are a very few watches that increase or maintain their "first-buy-value". Expect to loose 30-50% on what you paid.

:yeahthat Unless you are buying something like a Patek with a limited production run of about 10 pieces, never EVER expect a watch to either make or even just hold it's value in future. Apart from Pateks, and a couple of other very high end LE models, the only other real exception to the rule are some Rolex models at the beginning of their Production run when they are only available in (artifically maintained) small quantities. But even that sorts itself out over time as models become available on the second-hand market.

Buy a watch for yourself and assume you are going to keep it. Yes it will be worth something if you ever need to sell, but you'd be ill advised to buy with thoughts of future sales in your mind.


I think you're right, Driver. A friend wanted my advice on a
watch in the $10,000 -13,000 range purely as an investment. I
suggested either an IWC Big Pilot or Rolex Deep Sea, always assuming
he could find one. His plan: Buy it, stick it in a safety deposit for ten
years, then sell it. Considering what's going on with the world
economy, I think I'll tell him to just hang onto his loot. Lots safer. :)

I totally agree Steve. A few years ago when I had my LV Submariner my AD was telling me that his group Director was stashing a couple of LV Submariners in a safe as an investment. It wasn't too long after that that all of a sudden there were comparatively loads for sale on the open market and the bottom feel out of them. My AD told me that they were suddenly less popular and all of a sudden Rolex were MIRACULOUSLY able to increase production. (Hmmmmm, the cynic in me might say that they made loads of them, reduced supply to keep prices high, then when popularity waned they decided to dump them on the market! :? ) When I came to sell it, a watch trader I know said that I'd almost be better off putting a black bezel on it instead as they were holding better value!

So yes, in summary watches in general are not a good investment unless it is something really REALLY special. As Aleister said, gold bars are about the safest at the moment given the financial markets!

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I also agree, but...

My first Breitling was a SuperOcean, bought in 1997 for 12 000 SEK.
I got 8000 for it this year, that is 11 years down the road...

Still not an investment, as in actually MAKING money from it, but still... it doesnt loose that much value.

Just compare that to a car you bought 11 years ago!

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Agree on watches (must keep telling myself that every time I think of the Preziuso), disagree on gold.

Gold prices have been fluctuating way too much for me lately, and while this might seem like a good buying opportunity, if you look back over the last 15 - 20 years the price is still high.

If I were looking at a tangible item for investment purposes it would be uncut diamonds, coloured as a preference.


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Diamonds...gold...bonds...stocks. Decisions, decisions! I'm just glad
I'm poor and don't have such decisions to make. :? Seriously,
gentlemen, I will pass on your considered advice to my friend. I
will further remind him that watches are for fun, provided
one can afford them!:)

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