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Hello Everybody, I'm new here and in the market for a Breitling. This will be my first luxury watch purchase and is actually a wedding gift from my soon to be bride. (so technically she'll be buying it.)

Now that that's out of the way I've got a couple questions on the aforementioned model. Firstly, just shopping around I noticed that the Superocean Héritage Chronographe 44 is a few hundred dollars MORE expensive than the 46 model. Anybody have any insight to this? I love the simplicity of this Heritage model and am going back and forth between the chrono model and non...

Next question is something I am trying to verify that my jeweler told me. He said the 44 chrono is being discontinued on the heritage line. I haven't found this to be the case online anywhere, but he offered me 30% off of a brand new Superocean Héritage Chronographe 44. This shop is highly reputable in town and listed on Breitlings website as an AD, so nothing fishy about the shop, but still would not have expected that large of a discount from a B&M retailer.

Last question I have on the model is in relation to the "waterproofness". Mainly in respect to the pushers. The are pretty "out there:" with no gaurd and could see them being compressed accidentally underwater. This is a "no no" correct?

Thanks in advance, and if I sound like a noob, it's because I am.

Just for everyone's reference, can you provide us with the specific model of the watch you're interested in? YOu can get this by going to Breitling's website, choosing the watch you're interested in, select "My Breitling Made to Measure" and then build the watch you want (chhose the case, dial and strap). Then select "Availability and Price." There you will see a "Reference Number" separated by "pipes." The first is the case, the second is the dial and the third is the strap/bracelet. We just need to know the Case (the first number).

Most of the newer SO's have screw down pushers for the chrono operation. You definitely want those screwed down before entering the water. If you're looking at another model that doesn't have screw-down pushers, I'll defer to the "experts" on here. I thought all SO's had screw-down pushers. The Transocean doesn't have screw down pushers and they're rated to 100M/330ft.

As far as models being discontinued, yep. That happens and when it does, you can get a GREAT deal. Regarding the pricing on the small dial being more expensive, that's up to the mother ship and what they want to charge.

EDIT: OOPS...missed the part when you said SUPEROCEAN HÉRITAGE. Although the mother ship says water resistant down to 200M/660', I don't think I would take a chance of pushing those pushers either accidentally or on purpose. I'd leave it topside. JMHO.

Welcome to BreitlingSource and congratulations on the upcoming wedding.

Price difference is because the movement is different - evidenced by the dial layout. No practical difference so go with which you prefer. Breitling doesn't announce discontinuations so your AD is likely blowing smoke. If you are in the US I strongly suggest you contact jnelson3097 by PM who can put you in touch with Govbergs who will quote a fair price. You are correct the pushers cannot be operated underwater without almost guaranteed water ingress and expensive repairs, but it's not likely to be a practical problem, I've never heard of anyone pressing the pushers by mistake.

Per the above post, none of the SuperOcean Heritages have screwdown crowns

I just purchased the Super-ocean Heritage Chrono 44 with blue case and face with the Ocean Classic band from Costco for $3599.00 plus WSST. Its a great watch but the date setting is a bit cheesy. What is the AD quoting? It's a great watch and I don't think my local AD could touch the price but maybe I am wrong. With Costco's return policy it beats any warranty the AD can offer. Pic of the model is attached.

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Well, here is a good example of an authorized dealer selling a discontinued model.

This particular version of the Chronomat 44 has been discontinued. Because of this, the AD's can list it on eBay! as "Pre-Owned" (it's not pre-owned) AND they have to list it as "Majority of time remaining on factory warranty." This particular one is BRAND NEW and will be sold by Govberg with it's full, 5 year warranty. Because of this, you can get this $10,020.00 retail watch for $5350.00 and I was told by Andrew (at Govberg) they would take $5,000 for the watch if you paid via wire/cash through the Govberg website.

And just so you know it's brand new, check out the close-up images on the watch on eBay!. You can still see the protective film covering the lugs and the buckle. Andrew said these were actual images they took of the watch.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breitling-Chron ... SwbPxXQITL

I came very close to buying this watch, but the 44mm was too small for my 8.5" wrist AND I really want the Blackeye Blue dial.

Here is another example from Nagi Jewelers in Stamford, CT. They have this version of the Chronomat "Flying Fish" on eBay!. It's shown as "Pre-Owned" with the "Majority of the factory warranty remaining." Again, this watch is BRAND NEW. I Spoke directly with Armand at Nagi (they're a Breitling AD) and he told me the same thing. Discontinued model so they have special instructions on how it can be listed on the website and on eBay!. In this case, a $9,060 watch for $5,425.00 on eBay! and for less if you buy directly from the AD and use cash/wire transfer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Breitling-Chron ... SwIgNXl4Gc

The dealers do know when items are discontinued and if you know what to look for, you can find some AMAZING deals, often better than what you can get from a gray market seller.

Discontinued yes, to be discontinued, no and the SOH 44 is not yet a discontinued model. I am well aware there are deals to be had on discontinued models, must be something to do with all the phone calls I've gotten over the years!

For reference, here is the Model Number from Breitling...

SUPEROCEAN HÉRITAGE CHRONOGRAPHE 44
Reference: A2337016|C856|154A


Thanks for the feedback. I do see that its rated, but like you said, wouldn't want to chance it.

That is the exact watch, color combo and bracelet he had in stock. He quoted me 30% off of "sticker", which came to $4371.50, to which I replied, how about $4,000 even?

We settled on $4,500 including tax when I left. I told him I'd think about it and get back to him end of the week. Like you said though, I was under the impression that when purchasing at a store (AD) the price kind of just "is what it is". The only reason I even countered was well, he offered. lol

If that's the case about AD's, then it would potentially raise a flag...

Great insight and examples... yet, as Roffensian mentioned the model is not formally discontinued... Maybe this was a mistake by him?

The SOH as a model might not be discontinued, but the particular combination you're looking at might be. The perfect example is what I referenced above, the Chronomat 44 GMT with the "Sierra Silver" and the "Metallica Brown" dial has been discontinued but the Chronomat 44 GMT model has NOT been discontinued.

For the third time.....

It is not discontinued at this point.

I don't see where anyone said anything about "to be" discontinued.

The OP said his dealer told him about a specific model he had in stock, the SOH "Chrono" was discontinued, not the whole SOH line. I'll call Vicki in the morning at BUSA to find out for sure.

Thanks for the information and congratulatory remarks.

Do yo know if AD's are allowed to negotiate prices? I don't think he'd just drop the price by 30% for no reason. It doesn't make sense to me either, that's why part of why I'm here! haha



10-4. I see that now.

I would just be a little worried that one of these could be compressed underwater with no screwdowns for security. Arg...

Didn't mean to start an argument, but I appreciate the debate.

This is the exact order config he offered me, so if you do call, use this info. Greatly appreciated if so!


SUPEROCEAN HÉRITAGE CHRONOGRAPHE 44
Reference: A2337016|C856|154A

And I would tell them that Costco has this exact watch for $3599.00.

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