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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 8:48 am 
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EmileSA wrote:
I had some scratches on my Transocean. One deep scratch. I had the AR polished off. All the small scratches is gone but one little scratch remains. They couldn't remove this one. It was into the Chrystal. The watch looks much better now. I can't see the difference with or without the outside AR. That small little scratch (probably 1mm long) still annoys me. If the light shines just right on the watch I can see it but not worth $700. Scratch at 10o clock. I don't think you'll see it.

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Ok. I can see it if I zoom in on the photo. Is that really worth $700 ??

I don't know ?

What do you think ? Would you replace the Chrystal for that ?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:20 am 
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Roffensian wrote:
JeffE wrote:
Or maybe someone has removed outside AR coating and can show how it works with light reflections?

If only this site had a search function......
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60527

Thanks for the link, but guess what... I found the search function, I actually found those thread yesterday also and asked those user with PM about his feelings without AR and some before/after photos.

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and here is Emile's story of his scratched crystal and pictures of his watch with the coating removed:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=60527

This advice refers to the same thread, the only problem for me is that I haven't seen Breitling Transocean live, so one photo without AR gives me nothing if I haven't seen watch like that before and haven't seen how it looks like with the AR to have a comparision.

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Not a Navitimer, so you'll have to use your imagination a bit.

I wonder if you bought any of your watches using your imagination only, without seeing it...

WatchFred wrote:
well.... as you've apparently decided not to read what I wrote

I have read everything you wrote so far, the problem is that your words don't brings much.

WatchFred wrote:
literally all watches you see posted here do have scratches on their recent model Breitlings they show, you should find enough Navitimer pictures among the 14,000+ pictures here:
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32608

Yeah, maybe I would find some photos that would be useful for me, but I thought asking Breitling users for specific photo would be easier than looking for it in almost a thousand pages thread, where probably half of watches posted are not Breitlings, 90% of Breitlings are not Navitimers, and maybe only half of Navitimers are young enough to have double AR coating. Between those I only have to find a photo with light reflection and resolution high enough to see how possible scratches looks like. I don't expect anyone posting here photos showing scratches, but I am gonna look for it if you say so...

I actually do believe you, that many or all watches have scratches, but the problem is nobody post photos high enough to show scratches and brag about them. That is why I asked to take some photos showing this specific thing.

EmileSA wrote:
I had some scratches on my Transocean. One deep scratch. I had the AR polished off. All the small scratches is gone but one little scratch remains. They couldn't remove this one. It was into the Chrystal. The watch looks much better now. I can't see the difference with or without the outside AR. That small little scratch (probably 1mm long) still annoys me. If the light shines just right on the watch I can see it but not worth $700. Scratch at 10o clock. I don't think you'll see it.
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Thanks for the reply and your opinion about removed AR. I can see your scratch when zoom the photo, but this single scratch is not worth $700 in my opinion.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:02 am 
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Not that either member needs my backing but it is interesting that in just six posts you have managed to insult two of the most respected and experienced members of this forum! 38,000 plus posts all for naught! Just my .02 cents!



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:11 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:22 am 
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I can apologize them, if any of them feel insulted.
But what is number of posts, if the post are "use search thing" or "try to find among 14000 pictures what you need".
I am not like most of newbies, who do not care about content gathered on the forum and ask without checking anything. First thing I have done it was looking for any AR coating or scratches threads and read them, but I haven't found 2 things that I am interested in.
1. Examples at photo how big is the scratches problem.
2. Photos with differences before/after AR coating removed.

Those are not thing that you can write a poem about. The easiest way is to show it. I haven't found any valuable photo, so asked at Breitling forum, where as I expect most of users have a Breitling watch, to take some photo. Answers like "there are scratches and you have live with that" are not helpful at all and I do not care, if it was written by an another newbie like me or the most respected and experienced member. I apologize in advance if insult anyone with this words.


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I read my thread again and decide to apologize Roffensian. He wrote some helpful things and I can understand that he, as a Moderator, could be somehow condescending when dealing with newbies that mostly don't search anything. I am sorry for insult you.

But responses from the other most respected and experienced member of this forum like

"+1",
" live with those scratches and perfect AR - or polish off ",
"just change that picture angle then and the scratches will almost be invisible again",
"you should find enough Navitimer pictures among the 14,000+ pictures ",
"Not a Navitimer, so you'll have to use your imagination a bit."


didn't bring a lot, beyond his number of post...


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 10:58 am 
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live with those scratches and perfect AR, or polish them off and still enjoy exceptional AR.

just stating reality.

no matter how many additional queries you'll post, reality will not change.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:18 am 
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56scooter wrote:
I think that you might be better served by purchasing a new watch so that you are responsible for any scratches in the AR coating. Given your level of scrutiny I don't think that you will ever be happy buying used, I would hate to see normal wear and tear come between your friendship with others. Just my two cents!!

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Not that either member needs my backing but it is interesting that in just six posts you have managed to insult two of the most respected and experienced members of this forum! 38,000 plus posts all for naught! Just my .02 cents!

I appreciate you are one of the few who wrote anything in this thread. I want to believe that your first post with advice about buying new one instead of scratched was honest and words about my level of scrutiny were devoid of irony or derision. But the true is that you brings nothing to the matter of this thread and didn't helped me at all, so if your next two cents have nothing common with scratched/removed AR coating, it is not must-have opinion and I don't need it here. No offence. I only do not need to deal with next personal off topic opinions.

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live with those scratches and perfect AR, or polish them off and still enjoy exceptional AR.

just stating reality.

no matter how many additional queries you'll post, reality will not change.

Yes, you wrote it before and I recorded that. No need to repeat.

Now I would only like to know how looks the difference between removed and non-removed outside AR coating on Breitling Navitimer Series. Can you help and show me?

Second thing is in case of buying new sapphire glass, how it looks after wearing it (in other words - how it looks in other used watches). I already know that all watches has scratches, but seeing it on photo would me much more helpful than another words about it. Maybe can you help with that?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2016 11:38 am 
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For goodness sake, get a life. Or maybe a new watch? No scratches then.

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Yes, that helps me a lot! Another one of the most respected and experienced members of this forum?


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