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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2015 11:09 am 
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Just picked this up at Kaplans auction. Wondering how much of it is genuine?
The bezel does not turn so assuming that not original. Also wondering if sweep hand not original?
Not much lume left in hands. God knows what else?



http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 ... 8unys4.jpg
http://i1082.photobuckethttp://i1082.ph ... oumzr5.jpg

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 ... qt1ye7.jpg

http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 ... hwr1o6.jpg

Thanks for any input.


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Also, I note the minute register does not have the extended hash marks at 3,6 and 9 minutes.
Does that mean dial fake also? Do I really want to ask these questions? :)


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all seems correct and original, an early chrome plated piece. in excellent condition.
was bidding on it ;)
bezel is cirrect too, no fake bezel I'm aware of, just needs a competent watchmaker and it will turn again.


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I was hoping that watch was legit, It is beautiful. Congratulations


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WatchFred wrote:
all seems correct and original, an early chrome plated piece. in excellent condition.
was bidding on it ;)
bezel is cirrect too, no fake bezel I'm aware of, just needs a competent watchmaker and it will turn again.


Thanks Fred, but does it bother you ( or better said, should it bother me) that minute dial does not have the extra long hash marks for 3,6 and 9 minutes??


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Here is another shot of the bezel. It really does not budge.
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 ... o5hzsx.jpg


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David, the bezel is without doubt correct, the first versions were mounted w/ miniscule screws - and these tend to "freeze" the bezel in place. needs a bit of TLC, that's all.
the earliest dials had no elongated 3/6/9 markers, there also was a "rail" subdial version.
this is a VERY early piece, so no worries here.
crystal needs replacement though, huge issue at about $10


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WatchFred wrote:
David, the bezel is without doubt correct, the first versions were mounted w/ miniscule screws - and these tend to "freeze" the bezel in place. needs a bit of TLC, that's all.
the earliest dials had no elongated 3/6/9 markers, there also was a "rail" subdial version.
this is a VERY early piece, so no worries here.
crystal needs replacement though, huge issue at about $10


Fred, you almost have me convinced it's real :lingsrock: :lol:

One last question, thoughts on reluming or just leave the hands as is?
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I'll dig up a pic of my early rail subdial non-marker piece in a bit, but this very catalog might help too ?
note markers at 3/6/9 on the ref. 782, none on the 769

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replace the crystal, repair the bezel, leave all the rest.



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dgercp wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
David, the bezel is without doubt correct, the first versions were mounted w/ miniscule screws - and these tend to "freeze" the bezel in place. needs a bit of TLC, that's all.
the earliest dials had no elongated 3/6/9 markers, there also was a "rail" subdial version.
this is a VERY early piece, so no worries here.
crystal needs replacement though, huge issue at about $10


Fred, you almost have me convinced it's real :lingsrock: :lol:

One last question, thoughts on reluming or just leave the hands as is?
Thanks!

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Thank you Rick, yes I am well aware.
Watch now officially on Craig's wait list.


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dgercp wrote:
One last question, thoughts on reluming or just leave the hands as is?
Thanks!


Lume matches the dial perfectly... Not sure why you would redo the hands? Definitely looks fragile so if it were mine I would just have Craig seal it in from the back and keep as is !


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dgercp wrote:
One last question, thoughts on reluming or just leave the hands as is?
Thanks!


Lume matches the dial perfectly... Not sure why you would redo the hands? Definitely looks fragile so if it were mine I would just have Craig seal it in from the back and keep as is !


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eric,

That photo is a bit decieving.
Here you can see that the white part is in fact the dial (hence the good match).
Only the brown is remaining lume.
http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j36 ... qdldnx.jpg

This doesn't really bother me too much and am leaning towards leaving the hands alone. Would reluming diminish the value?


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"a bit deceiving" he says ....
shows how missing lume can look perfectly correct, :lol:
yes, hands need a relume & Craig does that very, very well.


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WatchFred wrote:
"a bit deceiving" he says ....
shows how missing lume can look perfectly correct, :lol:
yes, hands need a relume & Craig does that very, very well.


Fred, you realize now we are getting into the realm of philosophy :)



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