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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 4:45 am 
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Nope, the blue one :wowzers I have to sacrifice one of my NOS-scalerings to prove it :mrgreen:



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I have absolutely no proof but I have a feeling there were 2 versions , 1 blue 1 brown
will have to have a deeper search

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until understand the "one colour theorie" or until it will be better explaned to me,
why we see the different colours and there variations, i prefer to believe my
theorie - based on, what we see in pictures and i saw in "real life" including all
these variations, sometimes even a grey/brown ... - where from all these versions
should have there base? From only one blue version?: :wowzers


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the inner scale rings we find in different colours ...

what i saw in "real life" are a lot of different colours (only talking about the
more dark side of skale ring):

completly realy dark "chocolate brown" one

and it's variations (perhabs from to much sunlight)

"blue" one

and it's variations (perhabs from to much sunlight)

I talk about the automatic GMT Modell 2115 bezel variations, because we see them
more often, than 812, but they should be the same.

I don' know the real solution for this variations.

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no blue colour visible more or less at the upper end
on a 2115 scalering - really near buy picture.

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One more thing: Is the night blue or brown? :mrgreen:

Here you can see, what I mean:
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cal_11,

thx for this interesting picture. For me, this is a even new version of
"colour changed inner scalering" with this realy wide blue boarder.

i would propose to us/the people, who are involved with there watches/
pictures from there watches, that we don't make a combat with arguments
for the inner scale ring of our own watches, we showed here.

i think, that - wich theorie ever is correct - this "phenomenom" is very
interesting to notice and i never saw this in this extremity way at other
watch modells.

Let's have fun with our rare big case GMT's 812 and 2115 and perhabs one
day there will be a "colour-academic", who can explane to us, or for someone
here it is easy to explane a colour changing for example from blue to (at the end
of this process) dark brown.

Perhabs some years later, this "special effect" makes our watches to
a real star in the vintage watch market.


For all of us it would be more easy, if Breitling had produced the watches, as
they showed them in this catalog (with white inner scalering) - does anyone ever saw these?

:wowzers

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that is vintage
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Stephan, agree with you! We are discussing objective, nothing else...

Where are these photos from? Never seen...

If they these watches were really produced, the dial from the first watch is different from the known 2115 (no CHRONO-MATIC sign). The GMT-Hand looks like a early Rolex GMT-Hand. And it's written "red hands", not orange!

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this picture we also find in the catalog scan area here.
There it is scaned as a catalog from 1969.

I have the original catalog "Die Breitling Chronographen" Herbst 1972 in german language.

There we see also these GMT's and also the picture has the same mistake
(no Chrono-Matic). I think these mistakes in the catalogs are realy catalog-mistakes.

Also often there are mistakes in the description these days, for example also
here it is written, that the selfwinding version has a 6 hour totalizer.

Perhabs some one saw one of these or one day we find one of theme and have the
rarest bird of all GMT's, but never heard about these or saw one with these hands
and white inner scalering.

Perhabs all GMT's, as they were born, had these hands and white scalering and Breitling
realized, that over the years hands and scalerings changed by them self :mrgreen: :oops:

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Another example, currently offered at chrono24:
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after all perhabs it makes sence to classify these different states of scale ring aging
in international accepted categorys, for example in relation to something we all know:

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:wowzers

:lol:

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