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PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:00 am 
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watch your step ;)


LOL !! i'll replace my drowned and salty items only after I return ;-)

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WatchFred wrote:
Rene, what is the latest beaded bezel panda you have seen ?

the twinplane dial looks correct for 1964, but I too have not seen that combination - like you I would have expected the transitional milled bezel or applied AOPA wings.
so I'm a bit surprised to see the beaded bezel on a (albeit early) 1964, but it might well be an original combination in a period of multiple transitions, would not dare to call it; maybe Kurt will chime in ?

sliderule insert seems like an original 67-and-later Breitling or Linder Freres replacement insert installed during service - as we have seen on dozens if not hundreds of Navitimers; these are the only inserts readily available, both Breitling and the Heists install these on any 806 you ask them to restore - MUCH better for me than the non-original and clumsily printed replacements without the red accents on offer from dialfactory or Bill Shaine.

to the OP: beautiful watch, as stated on WUS; wear it in health and enjoy it; chances to find an original non-accented sliderule insert are minimal.


...to add to the debate I had some discussions with Kurt some time ago regarding transitional milled bezels / dial combinations. He remarked that the transitional milled bezels were only teamed with the AOPA dials, NOT the twin jet. Perhaps he will clarify this for us?


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There's nothing I can say that haven't already been said, in general I judge Navitimers according to the above chart that has been worked out by Mr Justin Koullapis of The British Horological Journal and myself, and that has been created from more than 350 Navitimers that has passed by my hands, and with help from Mark & Theresa Heist.

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I'm overwhelmed by the vast knowledge in here! Please tell me if I am digesting this correctly.
1. The slide rule is unquestionably not correct
2. Twinjet dial is likely correct for this year
3. beaded bezel would be very rare on a twinjet from this year, so likely not correct

I'm very pleased to have found this forum, and I genuinely appreciate you sharing your expertise with me!


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silverbullets wrote:
I'm overwhelmed by the vast knowledge in here! Please tell me if I am digesting this correctly.
1. The slide rule is unquestionably not correct


right

silverbullets wrote:
2. Twinjet dial is likely correct for this year


right , but only with milled bezel, not beaded bezel

silverbullets wrote:
3. beaded bezel would be very rare on a twinjet from this year, so likely not correct


not right , the combination beaded bezel w/ twin plane on dial never existed

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Dracha wrote:
silverbullets wrote:
3. beaded bezel would be very rare on a twinjet from this year, so likely not correct


not right , the combination beaded bezel w/ twin plane on dial never existed


I'm a bit less sure, we have recently seen silver hands on a wide bezel Cossie, so I'd say "to he best of our (current) knowledge never existed" ;)


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WatchFred wrote:
Dracha wrote:
silverbullets wrote:
3. beaded bezel would be very rare on a twinjet from this year, so likely not correct


not right , the combination beaded bezel w/ twin plane on dial never existed


I'm a bit less sure, we have recently seen silver hands on a wide bezel Cossie, so I'd say "to he best of our (current) knowledge never existed" ;)



i'll stick with my earlier assessment ;-)

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