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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:26 pm 
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You have my support Roff. I know I certainly don't have the contacts, so Im just glad some on this forum do. Im in for any SOHC or SOH, as its something ive been eyeing for a while. I certainly believe we should stay within the constraints of currently produced models and their specs and dimensions to maximise the success of the operation.


I agree with the exception that it is worth a single question wether a normal size case comes into consideration on the Breitling HQ side or not. If yes, a second question should point to the price difference. If the first question gets a negative answer or the price difference is enormous than we should sadly leave it as it is. But there'll be so many questions to ask them I do not think this is the one not to ask at all. (Other is the weekday option, even easier to produce, simply cut a hole into the dial, 'coz the Valjoux 7750 originally has this feature!)

Other idea of "brain-storming": Chrono Superocean with the dial colors of the SOHC Sharkmouth was kind to photoshop us: Blue dial, black subdials and calender discs. Cheap for Breitling to produce, wearable size of 42 mm, typical Breitling design of the rider tab bezel, excellent visibility of the all-dark dial and finally has the day-date windows.

I promise I'll give up collecting new ideas in the very minute the final decision is made - except there'll be a decision that every year a 50 piece LE for BS will be made :)

Good luck, Roff, go on doing the job, I'm behind you!

Regards Robertus


I can predict with relative certainty, that Breitling will not produce a new model for us. A variation of a current model, maybe--but there is no way that theyll manufacture a completely new model for us. Each model they make is made for very specific reasons. They made a 38 and a 46 for some reason (I have no idea what it is), and unless they are planning on releasing a size somewhere in between already, we aint gonna be the reason they do one.

That said, I would like to see one in the 42-44mm range :D


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They made a 38 and a 46 for some reason (I have no idea what it is)

Maybe because the Submariner/Seamaster are about 41mm so will appeal to those looking for something smaller/bigger.


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We're going to need to nail down the approved design. Once that is done Roff can work his magic and get us the pricing ;)

Perhaps a new thread is in order. Roff?


We don't need to do that yet.

There's nothing wrong with all this speculation, because talking price is getting way ahead of ourselves.

The first thing I need to do (and am doing) is get the conditions from Breitling under which they will agree to a LE. That's going to determine what our options are for a specific model.

There's absolutley no point in agreeing on a standard sized SOHC red / black (or anything else) if Breitling comes back and says that in order to preserve the identity of an SOHC then subs have to be the same colour as the main dial or that they'll only customise a Colt GMT or they'll only do an LE if it's logo'd, etc.

Anoyone who thinks that we are going to be finalising price and model in the next week or so is smoking something.

Let's manage expectations - by the time we have full agreement from Breitling (if we ever get it), a finalised design, a cost, a dealer and an approved proof we are going to be close to Christmas, and no one is going to be seeing a watch until the middle of next year.


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we are going to be close to Christmas, and no one is going to be seeing a watch until the middle of next year.


Thats actually a relief since this "custom" watch wasnt on the get it this year list! I sure hope that all of our "dreaming" come to full circle and next year fifty of us are sporting our LE Breitlings!

The more I look at that rendering of the Red/Black the more I like it. I could see myself wearing it on a daily basis.

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I sure hope that all of our "dreaming" come to full circle and next year fifty of us are sporting our LE Breitlings!

I couldn't agree more.

And yes this process is a likely to be a long one.... but I think we'd all agree that it will be well worth it if next year sometime time it comes to fruition.

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OK, makes sense. I would be amazing to have a LE whenever it may be. Oh and Driver, I'm loving your concept of the color combination direction more and more :thumbsup:

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Oh and Driver, I'm loving your concept of the color combination direction more and more :thumbsup:

Thanks Mario. :thumbsup: And thanks for mocking it up as well - it's always good to see it as a picture to help visualise if it would work or not. And I'd say it definitely works! :D

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Got an email from Breitling SA confirming about the SOH LE.

Here's what they said:

To commemorate the “50 years of Independence” of Malaysia, we have produced 2 limited editions of 50 pcs. each.

One of these limited edition was the Superocean Heritage 38, silver dial and green ring. The other limited edition was the Superocean Heritage 46, also with a silver dial and green ring. These watches have been delivered to our Singapore distributor, namely C. Melchers.


Most of it we already knew but it's nice to get a confirmation from Breitling instead of hearsay.


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My very dream about my watch is:

SOHC with 39-40 mm diameter, blue dial and bezel, black sub-dials and black calender discs, that is with day-date feature! (Day-date placed just like on the CSO or the Bentley GT). I would wear this dream on the mesh bracelet.

Quiet day at the office so I've been playing.

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Hope this looks like what you were dreaming of!


I have been staring at both the red and blue versions of the SOHC a couple of our more computer savvy members took the time to mock up. Thanks for the effort here guys!

I have to say that this blue version is growing on me, even the mesh
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In regards to Robertus61 reference to the Red Bull air races and Mr. Besenyei, I have to admit I am Team Mangold all the way!:D
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I dont really care for the blue. It is classy but not as stunning as the deep red/black mock up, imo. Having contrasting colors are a must.

I WANT IT NOW! (maybe because Im going through the "I want to buy another watch and dont have the watch fund built up high enough yet syndrome"). Business is a little slow right now, so my extra cash is not piling up. :(

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Any updates on the enquires Roff?

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Any updates on the enquires Roff?


The good news is..... I haven't heard anything.

I really think that is good because it means that it's being considered to some degree. I'm trying to schedule a conversation or two before the weekend and I have a couple of things lined up as backups if the initial answer is a no.


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OK, let's get this thread's post count up some.........

I have had a conversation with Breitling on this and here is the situation.

They will consider producing us an LE watch, and are open to a number of different possibilities. However, they do need some assurances before they will commit to anything. I'll try and identify the key points, but I know I'm going to get inundated with questions (which makes me wonder why I'm doing this before logging off for a few hours!).

The first point that they made is that cost will be based on the standard list price of the model plus list price of all options that we add. As I have previously mentioned discounts will be available because an AD will pay x% of list and then sell for whatever - same concept as a regular model. As some kind of comparison a logo generally results in around an $800 lift in the list price.

I have also said this before, but feel I need to say it again - I won't be getting anything out of this - no discount, no cash, no gifts, no collectibles, no preference.

OK, some details:

They will consider custom dial colours / features
They will consider a custom bezel colour on an SOH series (less relevant to other watches)
They will consider a DB for certain models (no details)!!
They will consider a run as small as 25 depending on the watch / customisation - but price will be higher per unit than a run of 50 - obviously
They will consider engraving on the caseback (beyond the xx/xx)

Here's the flip side:

They need to review the prospective buyer and approve them. They initially asked me for a profile of the company making the purchase. I explained that it was a community, not a company and they said that the principle was the same - a profile of the group, history, goals / aims etc. I asked them if Breitling had done anything for a web community in the past and they said they hadn't. I asked if they would and they said that it would be considered against the same standards - this is all about protecting the brand.

I asked whether or not the fact that this was a Breitling community would help and was told that it likely would, but that alone wouldn't necessarily be enough. We then had a discussion about what would lead to an improved chance of success and a lot of it comes down to a well written profile. However there was one additional relevant piece. I asked (prompted by a PM last weekend from a forum member) about a charitable connection. The example I used was of a donation of $x on top of the purchase price being made for each watch to a Breitling approved charity. I was told that this would not automatically result in approval, but that it would be seen as an additional indication of the type of group that we are - they want to support charities while not being seen as being bought.



So, to cut to the chase......

We need to prepare a profile of the group (collectively, not individuals) - I do quite a lot of writing for publication so am happy to draft something for the group to review and then we need to start making decisions about number, model, degree of customisation, etc. We would probably want to have a couple of possible options.

We also need to decide whether the group would be interested in the charitable aspect and if so how big the $x should be - I have my own thoughts, but am interested in yours.

I understand the excitement that people may feel, but please - this isn't a done deal yet - in fact it's a long way from it.


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Good work so far Roff, thanks for doing it. That said I'm in. I'm not much of a writer, but then you have that covered. perhaps I can lend a hand in the graphics area.

The fact that they are ready to produce as little as 25 really takes the pressure off on finding 50 plus people.

For the record I am voting for a SOHC 46mm with the red/black color combo Diver suggested.

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