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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:55 am 
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Speedie all the way


well, Jon has a Speedie - and a very, very nice one, I dare say :wink:

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so World Time and/or Diver sound like the right choices to "sum it up" ?

next to the iconic designs of your current Speedmaster & Navitimer I'd choose
very carefully - vintage Breitling Worldtimers are very hard to find at reasonable
price points and, frankly, the modern Unitime just doesn't compare; so my
choice (next to the obvious Sub that "everybody" has :oops:) would be the
Longines Legend Diver "tribute" - Super Compressor, robust, very affordable
and a wonderful re-edition of a true classic icon.

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or, if you want to go "true" vintage, the Enicar Sherpa SuperDive 600; again (still)
relatively affordable, not easy to find in decent/good condition, but with a bit of luck
and patience .....

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another perfect choice would be the mid 1960s Breitling SuperOcean ref. 2005 -
innovative, impressive, unique, iconic; a bit less "affordable", but still reasonable;
COULD even prove to be a smart long term investment (I'd also consider the Enicar
Sherpa SuperDive a decent choice here, should hold it's value quite well too).

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Very cool ideas Fred. Thanks.

Some more looking on my part indicates that it might be possible to kill two birds with one stone and get a GMT diver. Then the sixth watch could be something vintage (1970 or earlier for me). Something made in 1970 would be of real interest as a birth-year watch. Only problem is that watch styles in the 70s seem to have some of the same problems as clothing styles.

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Some more looking on my part indicates that it might be possible to kill two birds with one stone and get a GMT diver.


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http://www.omegawatches.com/collection/ ... m/25358000

The only Seamaster in the range retaining the classic wave-dial.


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Thanks for that one Tom. I had totally missed this model. Stopped by the local Omega, Breitling, Rolex AD today and was sad to find that retail was quite a bit more than I expected. They also lobbied hard for me to not buy any pre-owned from a forum.

One bright spot was that they indicated that it is possible to just by an Avenger II GMT head if I already have a 22/20 strap.

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kahless wrote:
Thanks for that one Tom. I had totally missed this model. Stopped by the local Omega, Breitling, Rolex AD today and was sad to find that retail was quite a bit more than I expected. They also lobbied hard for me to not buy any pre-owned from a forum.

One bright spot was that they indicated that it is possible to just by an Avenger II GMT head if I already have a 22/20 strap.


Haha of course they lobbied for that, they want the sale.

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Thanks for all the input. I think the choice is probably an Avenger II GMT (will have to see it and try it on). While I'd ideally like the Planet Ocean GMT, I think it is outside of my price range.

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kahless wrote:
Thanks for all the input. I think the choice is probably an Avenger II GMT (will have to see it and try it on). While I'd ideally like the Planet Ocean GMT, I think it is outside of my price range.


Completely up to you of course, but if the PO GMT is the one that you want then I wouldn't 'settle' for another one. Better to wait and save than spend and regret.


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Completely up to you of course, but if the PO GMT is the one that you want then I wouldn't 'settle' for another one. Better to wait and save than spend and regret.


Spot on. Been there, done that: bought a cheaper variant of a watch I really wanted in the hope I'd be distracted and satisfied. Nope. Just ended up part-exing it. No point scratching the lesser itch...


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I'll try and look at them side-by-side at the AD. The difficulty is the AD having the style of each I'm interested in. In the meantime I feed the watch fund. Thanks again.

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Fred,

Coming back to your recommendations. If I wanted to go after either the Enicar or Breitling, where would I even begin to look for one? Here for the Breitling and probably WatchUSeek and Chrono24, but then you get into the whole issue of authenticity when you are a total novice. I've spotted a number of threads here about excellent fakes and I'm guessing with the age of some of these watches that papers and boxes are long lost to time.

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Jon,
verifying authenticity is the easy part - Breitlings can be posted here in the vintage section, happy to verify any Enicar for u by pm, or you can post them in the vintage section on WUS. Finding them on the other hand is another issue - ebay is by far your best bet, it needs quite a bit of patience, persistence and luck, but that's actually the nice thing, a lot more satisfying for me than walking into a store and picking one of the many pieces on offer.


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Seems like you've already made up your mind, but I'm going to throw out a vote for the submariner, no date. It's a timeless classic, and pre-owned it's not only affordable (depending on your budget, natch) but will likely hold its value well. http://www.therolexforum.com is a great resource for buying a previously enjoyed watch - be careful of course, to research the seller first.

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mjb,

The Sub with no date is something I will probably add at some point. I also like the look of the Air King. I've been thinking about what appeals to me and talking with Fred some more. Like a lot of other collectors, watches with a connection to space flight appeal to me and are what I'm thinking I'd like to form the core of my collection. So once I have the watch fund at a sufficient level, I'll start a hunt for a Navitimer 809 (ideally manufactured in 1970). Eventually I'd like to add a Poljot, but I don't know anyone with knowledge of Russian watches.

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