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PostPosted: Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:48 pm 
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Came across this 806 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-60s-Bre ... true&rt=nc but trying evaluate it using Kurts article a day before the sale brought up quite a few questions, also thanks to all the inputs I received.

Might have been wrong about it's authenticity but here's what troubled me causing me to bail out

1) Serial dates it as 67, should have had larger subdials (?)
2) Many of the ones of this era have the boxed red windows, this one doesn't.
3) The number fonts on the subdial at 6"O Clock are different to all the 67-68 Navis I have seen where the 6 and 9 font on the subdial numbers is disjointed. Earlier ones are joint. Think this was the biggest one that put me off.
4) No movement shots didn't help and though the seller says no scratches on the dial, is hard to tell from the pictures.
5) The lume looked strangely shaded but I think it is correct and not relumed. The sliderule is too worn but think that could have been easily replaced.

Feel free to share your opinion!


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What can be seen on the pics looks globally correct for me . It would be better with a movement shot.


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sliderule & dial do not fit the 1967 case


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Hi Cruvon,

Yes, I saw this one too but did not bid. Not that I thought it unreasonable though. Opposite actually. I thought it was basically OK and strangely, I actually like the patina on the dial and the C scale.

With a decent clean up and a new strap, this one could look reasonably interesting to wear.

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P51 wrote:
Hi Cruvon,

Yes, I saw this one too but did not bid. Not that I thought it unreasonable though. Opposite actually. I thought it was basically OK and strangely, I actually like the patina on the dial and the C scale.

With a decent clean up and a new strap, this one could look reasonably interesting to wear.



Hi Jim, I didn't have an issue with the patina which I liked, more with the correctness of the watch for 1967 that looked questionable based on my observations above based on Kurts article. Also, the seller wouldn't answer questions after only replying once.


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WatchFred wrote:
sliderule & dial do not fit the 1967 case


Why not ?


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cruvon wrote:
Hi Jim, I didn't have an issue with the patina which I liked, more with the correctness of the watch for 1967 that looked questionable based on my observations above based on Kurts article. The seller wouldn't answer questions after only replying once.


Hi Cruvon,

That’s OK, I am with you. As soon as a seller does not get back with answers, I usually become disinterested too.

My worry is always, the number of production line changes Breitling have been purported to have made from time to time on various models. Just when you think something is always going to be the same, someone spots an odd fire version that is legit but does not fit the usual indicators. Throws me into a tailspin every time. :lol:

It’s a nice version, but at the final bid price I would have stowed my trigger finger as well. :wink:

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Kurt B wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
sliderule & dial do not fit the 1967 case


Why not ?


expect red accents on both for a mid/late '67


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Also comparing to Kurts article watch, noticed the sub dials are bigger in 67-68 v/s smaller ones on the Ebay one
http://kurt-b.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... m-1968.jpg

Then I compared this one from 1967 in Kurts article where had the box window and the fonts of the numbers on the subdial at 6 were different to the ebay one. However the subdials are the smaller ones like on the ebay one.
http://kurt-b.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... m-1967.jpg


Also Kurt states that "By 1967-68, Breitling began to produce Navitimers with slightly enlarged sub-dials, but the reference number remained 806 and movement still Venus 178."
http://kurt-b.com/wp-content/uploads/20 ... 4-W-re.jpg


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The era of boxed 10 dials was in 1968 (I got three of them, all with serial numbers 122xxxx). I think, after this period, the bigger subdials were produced. Its also possible, that two types of subdials were sold parallel.

Cruvon, the slide rule on pic 2 is not authentic, the boxed 10 is missing...

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cal_11 wrote:

Cruvon, the slide rule on pic 2 is not authentic, the boxed 10 is missing...

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Wrong, it's there, and I should know as it's my watch.

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Sorry, I'm viewing this thread on a tablet and it's really hard to switch between editing and viewing the thread. On pic 2 the 10 isn't visible because of the reflex, I confounded it with pic 1.

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