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PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:26 pm 
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did Breitling ever used a Venus 195 ?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/CHRONOGRAPH-BREI ... 1267099074


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not documented, moonphase chronos are Valjoux R88, Venus 184

but that watch has so many problems that movement dicussions are futile, total fake.


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moonphase chronos are Valjoux R88, Venus 184


and Venus 187 and Venus 200 ?


I think, Venus actually produced the calibre Venus 195 for Breitling, but Breitling had not installed it in series.

here I found a similar Venus watch with Breitling signed movement.
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9233/breitling2z.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7056/breitling1.jpg

http://www.watchlounge.com/wbb3/wl/watc ... diese-uhr/


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That site is hardly credible for anything to do with Breitlings.

Here we go again......


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Roffensian wrote:
That site is hardly credible for anything to do with Breitlings.

Here we go again......


its a different site roff :-)

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he dislikes lounges. must be the traveling.


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:oops:

Didn't get past the Lounge bit :roll:

Still don't buy in to a 195 exclusively produced for Breitling but never used though.


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Breitling used the Venus calibre 195, which stil where in stock, later for the "Schneider Re-Edition" Datoras


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another unproven story. Breitling sold off it's complete stock of watches, cases, dials, movements, machinery in the late 1970s - well documented. Schneider bought the name and some production rights. But somewhere someone hid several dozen of high grade movements - some never used by Breitling like the Eberhard - that just happened to be found decades later - nobody ever told us where and how ......


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And never will.


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I found it here:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=19993&p=148832&hilit=mystery+Breitling+moonfase#p148832


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I have seen before a lot of this Scheider Re-Editions" with original Breitling papers.


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Nothing there that proves who generated the reissued ones. Assumption 3 years ago was Schneider, but no one knows.


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Yes Roff, but you can find these also in Benno Richter, on page 129


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