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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:58 pm 
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MattC wrote:
I've been searching for the wide beads of rice bezel my whole life! I can't believe I've found one finally I can die happy!
What a joke!


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There’s plenty of playgrounds for kids like you on the www, try http://www.lego.com, that should keep you entertained for a while.


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MattC wrote:
I've been searching for the wide beads of rice bezel my whole life! I can't believe I've found one finally I can die happy!
What a joke!


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There’s plenty of playgrounds for kids like you on the www, try http://www.lego.com, that should keep you entertained for a while.


You are so much cooler and smarter than me!
Thank you for making me see the light!
Fkn putz!



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I apologize for my earlier comment, I though I was making a comment of a replica or fake, not realizing it was in fact real.
There are a lot of knowledgeable people here, especially in the vintage sections, but every once in a while there is a dick.
No big deal, but I think that ill prefer to leave the vintage section to the experts.
As for making fun of people for not having enough knowledge, that is just rude and immature.
Thanks all, but I will be staying away from the vintage section from now on, and stick with the newer models as that's what brought me to the brand and what I enjoy to collect and wear.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:44 pm 
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it wasn't your best comment, Matt - and Kurt does not laugh, at least not in his forum life.
and p*tz will be understood by a very small minority outside the US and Israel - still kudos for the apology.

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What a sad thread for so many reasons.

People who don't know what they are talking about throwing out misleading and inaccurate descriptions repeatedly, people who most certainly do know what they are talking about being unnecessarily rude and obnoxious (again), and someone who could have been a future collector and flag bearer for the brand being driven away by thoughtless arrogance.

Matt, thank you for the apology, you have demonstrated that you are a gentleman. Kurt, as I have asked before, please respect other people, name calling is childish and unnecessary. Whether you like the rules or not, you are required to comply with them as one of the small prices to pay for the privilege that we all enjoy as members of this site. You are way too knowledgeable to spoil your reputation with pointless insults. The Kurt I remember from the early days of this site was helpful and polite - I enjoyed him immensely.


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It didn't help that I let it bother me so much, that's something I need to work on.
I love watches, even though I don't know much about earlier examples which is part of the reason I joined this forum.
Even though this is the second or third time I let something like this get to me, I won't let it get in the way for my love of watches.
Oh and, I do play with Legos all the time with my youngest son. He has a great imagination and it brings me back to my childhood every time I play with him.
I even got him a Lego watch when we went to Lego Land last year in Florida, sadly he lost it playing outside, but his birthday is coming up in October and I plan on replacing it for him.



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:21 am 
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WatchFred wrote:
well, we are not judging the creativity of sales texts here, but vintage watches. the text is ridiculous, the watch is as far from that as it can get.

As this forum is the - as far as I am aware - only relevant source of information about the complete range of Breitling vintage watches, some of the comments above might be misleading to casual readers.

This is NOT a prototype, but actually the only original "space" Cosmonaute. Story goes (unsubstantiated, as we have to live with a current Breitling that does nothing to help the vintage community with information they might have) that the normal bezel was hard to use w/ the space suit gloves, so a wider bezel was produced.

The first ref. 809 had this bezel, no idea how many were made (anybody at Bretling reading this might want to add this info, my sources tell me they do have that information, but choose to keep ut private), but these are clearly among the most collectable Breitlings ever produced - whether Jim likes them or not.


well, I'll try to continue this thread on a more positive note, quoting myself (sorry for this) with what I know about these early - and truly iconic - ref. 809s, I think the price is actually in a realistic range, just doubting whether ebay does it justice. Here are some pics to document this rare beauty when the ebay listing ends, as we will rarely if ever see another one like this - and if, hopefully without the stupid hyperbole of this listing text:

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Kurt is Kurt, a bit abrasive and apparently with no patience for what he considers childish remarks, even if they are meant as jokes - I still very much appreciate his wealth of (highly focused) knowledge about the vintage Navitimers and Cosmonautes.

Matt was probably a bit misled, as Jeram was, by remarks that were voiced as knowledgeable evaluation - and were very, very far from this; if you do not know what you are talking about, it might make sense to note that you are only voicing personal opinion and tastes - scratches on sliderules as a reason for doubting the NOS condition of a watch only gain relevance when you've made sure that sliderule is in the correct watch ?

Hope I have now not managed to make things even worse - I'd love to keep all of you around !


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Thanks for the quick lesson, gracious as always Fred. And Kurt we do appreciate your knowledge, please don't be put off.

I'll continue to lurk in the vintage forum solely as a reader as I usually do. Still too broke to actually buy anything ;)


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A rare watch for sure but if were to pay that much and was my only Navi, I would prefer acquiring a pre 806 V72 Navitimer instead for it's wider appeal! A great addition to a collection though.


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I agree Cruvon. If you can afford it though, might make a good addition to a collection.

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Surprising the auction got only 2 offers the highest at $2800!


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cruvon wrote:
Surprising the auction got only 2 offers the highest at $2800!


Yes, agreed. But there again most buyers of this watch would be fairly astute anyway. Assume the worst and what you might have in the way of fixes for it in your sphere, and you might not be that keen on bidding.

If the movement needs work, or if it’s been subbed, then that’s probably fixable without too much drama. If the case is not in the best of condition, then it may always be an issue to get exactly right. Weighing in the balance, and you may decide to walk away.

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early 809's , AFAIK , came in 4 diff versions and they're all rare as 'hens teeth'. This is certainly one of them and I believe completey original

the 4 versions are :

-: all black with 'wide bezel'
-: all black with 'normale bezel'
-: white subs with 'wide bezel'
-: white subs with ''normale bezel'

Hands are different as well for the 'all black' vs. 'white subs'

personally I would pay (again) a hefty sum for an all black with wide bezel as I have a (unsubstantiated and not verifiable) feeling those are the oldest models and I like them best

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Just spotted this one allegedly from 1962 also. Completely different dial. Fake or something else?

http://www.watchseller.com.au/watch-store/all-watches/1962/


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afaik there are 4 '
62 versions even, black/black w/ the AVI sweep seconds an the black panda; widw and regular bezels.


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