The Breitling Watch Source Forums

Breitling Watch Information Forums, Navitimer, Chronomat
It is currently Sun May 04, 2025 12:42 am

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:46 am 
Offline
Contributing Connoisseur
Contributing Connoisseur
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:15 am
Posts: 2417
Likes: 882 posts
Liked in: 626 posts
Location: MASSACHUSETTS USA
The outer ring is missing on this so called new bullnose or so he calls it.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/BREITLING-CHRON ... 2a2cdc6fb1

_________________
"A man with one watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never quite sure."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:01 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:43 pm
Posts: 3330
Likes: 117 posts
Liked in: 414 posts
Good eye. I had completely missed that. Could be an assembled watch since he didn't want to show a pic of the movement and the cases are readily available.
Seller said this:

"Hi: Thanks for your information. The watch is not missing any inner scale. That is how it was configured from Breitling. Some watches did have an additional inner decimal scale and some did not. The outer scale is essentially two scales in one. Please see photos again."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:14 am 
Offline
Contributing Connoisseur
Contributing Connoisseur
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:15 am
Posts: 2417
Likes: 882 posts
Liked in: 626 posts
Location: MASSACHUSETTS USA
vintage wrote:
Good eye. I had completely missed that. Could be an assembled watch since he didn't want to show a pic of the movement and the cases are readily available.
Seller said this:

"Hi: Thanks for your information. The watch is not missing any inner scale. That is how it was configured from Breitling. Some watches did have an additional inner decimal scale and some did not. The outer scale is essentially two scales in one. Please see photos again."

Is the sellers comment correct. maybe Roff or Fred can chime in.

_________________
"A man with one watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never quite sure."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:31 am 
Offline
Contributing Connoisseur
Contributing Connoisseur
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:15 am
Posts: 2417
Likes: 882 posts
Liked in: 626 posts
Location: MASSACHUSETTS USA
Don't see any on Google images without the outer scale. Seller must be privy to some very special facts.

_________________
"A man with one watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never quite sure."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:21 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14216
Likes: 1471 posts
Liked in: 1728 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
incorrect


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:29 am 
Offline
Contributing Moderator
Contributing Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:09 am
Posts: 36521
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 489 posts
Location: Ontario, Canada
WatchFred wrote:
incorrect


:yeahthat


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:39 am 
Offline
Contributing Connoisseur
Contributing Connoisseur
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:15 am
Posts: 2417
Likes: 882 posts
Liked in: 626 posts
Location: MASSACHUSETTS USA
Roffensian wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
incorrect


:yeahthat

I assume the watch is Franken.

_________________
"A man with one watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never quite sure."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:42 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:43 pm
Posts: 3330
Likes: 117 posts
Liked in: 414 posts
Then he sends me this:

"Hi: I did some research on this topic and found out that this watch is Ref. 2112 with Calibre 11 and did not have the inner scale. However, Breitling later on made Ref. 2117 with calibre 12 and that one had the inner scale you are referring to. Nothing is missing from this NEW watch.
Visit this site and you will these all these watches. Thanks.
http://www.breitling-museum.com/Breitli ... Matic.html"

If his watch says ref 2112 on the back he has bigger problems. :lol: Bet it has a JRGK movement too. Gee, no pic of the back and no pic of the movement. Wonder why.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:45 am 
Offline
Contributing Moderator
Contributing Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:09 am
Posts: 36521
Likes: 0 post
Liked in: 489 posts
Location: Ontario, Canada
But consider the source that he is citing - it must be correct!!!


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:43 am 
Offline
Breitling Connoisseur
Breitling Connoisseur

Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:20 am
Posts: 760
Likes: 3 posts
Liked in: 138 posts
a/ 100% of the Pult 7101 and 2117 that I saw have an inner scale
b/ 2112 has a symetric oval case , it is not a Pult
3/ 2117 have encased mainly the cal.11 and latest pièces have encased its evolution the cal. 12
4/ in both cases the chrono bridge is engraved " Breitling automatic cal 11 - or 12" - silver finish for cal 11 , and gold finish for cal 12 .
5/ as far as I know, original subdial hands would be black on a Brown 2117 - but unsure about that .

Provided that this Pult encases the correct Cal 11 , it would not be designed as a franken, only a good Pult with just a missing inner ring - easy to find on eBay . IMHO , the seller is stupid to stay on his position . Considering that he trusts breitling -museum as a reference , this explains that.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:13 am 
Offline
Contributing Connoisseur
Contributing Connoisseur
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:15 am
Posts: 2417
Likes: 882 posts
Liked in: 626 posts
Location: MASSACHUSETTS USA
Is there any general consensus of whether this is a legitimate Breitling bullhead or not. I think not.

_________________
"A man with one watch knows what time it is; a man with two watches is never quite sure."


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  
 Post subject: Re: Bullhead
PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:12 am 
Offline
Contributing Member
Contributing Member

Joined: Sun Jan 02, 2011 4:36 pm
Posts: 14216
Likes: 1471 posts
Liked in: 1728 posts
Location: Vienna, Austria
well, we'll see whether Paul or Phil were right with their gut feeling, my bet is on Phil. :wink:
a 2112 caseback would not fit the case, btw.


Top
 Profile  
Reply with quote  

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 12 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
 




Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group