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 Post subject: 806 relumed?
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service dial, I assume ?
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WatchFred wrote:
service dial, I assume ?



How can one tell a service dial Fred?
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San, an assumption, as I wrote. The watch is from 1960, so no way this dial and hands left the factory with it, there were twinplane service dials, iirc there was even a way to tell them apart (wing angles or so), can not remember were I read that; Roff is younger, he might help me here ?
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WatchFred wrote:
San, an assumption, as I wrote. The watch is from 1960, so no way this dial and hands left the factory with it, there were twinplane service dials, iirc there was even a way to tell them apart (wing angles or so), can not remember were I read that; Roff is younger, he might help me here ?


Younger simply means less experienced :lol: :wink:

I don't recall a definitive give away on service dials, although there have been some that appeared to be service dials that certainly don't fit the norm - the painted B from last year springs to mind and I wonder whether the logo evolved over time - like the 'shrugging' wings.
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WatchFred wrote:
San, an assumption, as I wrote. The watch is from 1960, so no way this dial and hands left the factory with it, there were twinplane service dials, iirc there was even a way to tell them apart (wing angles or so), can not remember were I read that; Roff is younger, he might help me here ?


Younger simply means less experienced :lol: :wink:

I don't recall a definitive give away on service dials, although there have been some that appeared to be service dials that certainly don't fit the norm - the painted B from last year springs to mind and I wonder whether the logo evolved over time - like the 'shrugging' wings.


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well, the memory's still ok, latency seems to be the problem.

here is the info I remembered seeing, from Jean-Michel's site, copied it as the site does not allow deep linking and the info is hidden under "Curious":

"How to spot a "new" Navitimer 806 dial ?
Breitling manufacture a serie of 806 dial in order to restaure 806 watches , theses dials produced recently seems only to exist in the "large subdial" version : but how to spot theses compared to original dials ?
The first point to check is that the luminous material of "new" dials is in Luminova : the luminova have a "smooth" finish compared to the tritium , but one other point might help you to spot them :
The "double plane" logo is slightly different on the "new" dials compared to the original : look to the angle of the "wings" on the two logos"

and the pic, though as far as I can see, the dial discussed here is NOT such a replacement dial:
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I had the same source about double wings typo . Unhappilly Jean Michel's site seems to be frozen since a couple of years.
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WatchFred wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
WatchFred wrote:
San, an assumption, as I wrote. The watch is from 1960, so no way this dial and hands left the factory with it, there were twinplane service dials, iirc there was even a way to tell them apart (wing angles or so), can not remember were I read that; Roff is younger, he might help me here ?


Younger simply means less experienced :lol: :wink:

I don't recall a definitive give away on service dials, although there have been some that appeared to be service dials that certainly don't fit the norm - the painted B from last year springs to mind and I wonder whether the logo evolved over time - like the 'shrugging' wings.


:wink:
well, the memory's still ok, latency seems to be the problem.

here is the info I remembered seeing, from Jean-Michel's site, copied it as the site does not allow deep linking and the info is hidden under "Curious":

"How to spot a "new" Navitimer 806 dial ?
Breitling manufacture a serie of 806 dial in order to restaure 806 watches , theses dials produced recently seems only to exist in the "large subdial" version : but how to spot theses compared to original dials ?
The first point to check is that the luminous material of "new" dials is in Luminova : the luminova have a "smooth" finish compared to the tritium , but one other point might help you to spot them :
The "double plane" logo is slightly different on the "new" dials compared to the original : look to the angle of the "wings" on the two logos"

and the pic, though as far as I can see, the dial discussed here is NOT such a replacement dial:
Image


Thanks Fred, very helpful to know!
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