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Hi guys,

I am new to wrist watches and considering buying a used Breitling Navi. I want to know which movement is the most reliable (in terms of longevity and stress resistance):
Navitimer Breitling 23,
Navitimer World Breitling 24,
Cosmonaute Breitling 22,
Old Navitimer Breitling 13?
I guess these are the most common Breitlings found on ebay.

As much as I know is that Cosmo has a flyback complication, does this make a movement less reliable or as oposite, since thereare more stones it is more precise and more reliable? I have no idea...

Thanks for advise.


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First, :welcome: . I'd say that all of them are reliable, but B13 is probably the toughest.
Cosmos have both manual (Lemania - older ones) and auto ( B22 - newer) movement. I'm sure that somebody will answer your question soon.


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I would agree that calibre 13 is the most resilient in terms of 'toughness', but that doesn't necessarily imply longevity for normal use.

The Navitimer range isn't the tough watch for Breitling so assuming that a Navitimer is tough enough for your everyday life then I wouldn't be too concerned about which movement you get - just get the watch that appeals to you most.

The calibre 22 is a flyback, but not all Cosmos have it (as bnewbie said) - but it is in the current model


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Breitling claims that the B13 is the most reliable chrono movement in the world.


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RJRJRJ wrote:
Breitling claims that the B13 is the most reliable chrono movement in the world.

And that's because (as you know) it's basically a Valjoux 7750 which is probably the most widely used quality chronograph movement in the world.

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How about the caliber 19 on the Navi Olympus? Isn't it the most complex movement (over 250 moving parts) of the navi line? Anyone heard of problems with reliability?


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How about the caliber 19 on the Navi Olympus? Isn't it the most complex movement (over 250 moving parts) of the navi line? Anyone heard of problems with reliability?


It's the most complex Navitimer (though not the most complicated Breitling - that would be the 29 currently), and as such there are obviously more pieces to go wrong, and more costs at servicing time, but I don't know of any more issues with this than any other. In theory you could say that chronographs should have more problems than non chronos for the same reason, but it doesn't really work that way.

Remember that many of those 250 parts only move occasionally as they're related to the semi-perpetual functions or moonphase.


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