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 Post subject: Chronomat ref. 769, 1946
PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:09 am 
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some pics of a recent arrival; interesting, as it has a logo engraving inside the caseback.

to quote Craig: "started on the 18K 769 today. I appears that this one has never been serviced or has the movement removed in its entire lifetime. There are no service marks inside the back anywhere. Perfect original hands and I saved the original lume by adding a thin layer of super glue on the backsides so it will stay in place.... script signature inside the back - don't see that very often?"

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Live and learn indeed - would never have expected the script Breitling. Looks to be a magnificent survivor, the case looks absolutely perfect.


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Wow that is a beautiful watch!!

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Leave some for me Fred!!!!!

That piece is ludicrous! :bow:

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That's a beauty Fred. These watches are stunning.

Is the movement signed Premier? Always wondered how you get bars onto it to attach a strap?

Interesting that these dials were made by ZJ, who were up there with Stern as dial makers of the period.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:39 am 
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Eitan, this movement is signed Premier, many others are not, movement marking is all over the board in the mid 40s, unsigned, signed Breitling, signed Breitling&Premier - I'll update that thread we had some time ago with more examples.

Dials on these are actually spectacular - chameleon-like, changing color in different angles and light, quite impossible to decently refinish.

Here is an 18k 769, late 45 - no Breitling engraving inside caseback, no Premier on the bridge:
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WatchFred wrote:
some pics of a recent arrival; interesting, as it has a logo engraving inside the caseback.

to quote Craig: "started on the 18K 769 today. I appears that this one has never been serviced or has the movement removed in its entire lifetime. There are no service marks inside the back anywhere. Perfect original hands and I saved the original lume by adding a thin layer of super glue on the backsides so it will stay in place.... script signature inside the back - don't see that very often?"

live and learn.

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Absolutely Beautiful. Wear it well!!!!!!

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Yaffle wrote:
Always wondered how you get bars onto it to attach a strap?
:shock: Interesting that these dials were made by ZJ, who were up there with Stern as dial makers of the period.


sorry Eitan, forgot to answer your bar question, they are called "female spring bars", available, among others from Cousins in the UK.


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I also took some picture of my pre 1944 Chronomat.
If everything will go as planed, it will be sold next friday. I took a lot of pitures, now it is still in my posession.

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Sorry to dig up an old thread but as I put in my recent 769 Questions thread, I am currently looking into these lovely watches. The pictures of the watch above interested me. I guess from the condition (aging) of the dial above it is original, and on studying it I noticed that the Red inner circle isn't symmetrical, essentially touching the 3 o'clock subdial hand but not the 9 o'clock one. Was this intensional, just a factor of 40s production technology, or variations due to human inaccuracies? How were these dials made originally?

I notice it's the same on the Ops untouched example too, so am interested in the reason.

(ps lovely example Fred)

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I would say the base of the minute counter hand could be marginally smaller.


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Ah ok, yea it looks like it may be, thanks.


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but I'll post some more 769 dials for you to compare away, these were of course not produced by robots, so it could be possible that the die for one of the print colors was not absolutely correctly placed, though it does look on all as if the red circle was slightly closer to to 3.

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A real exceptional Chronomat, congrats Fred :bow: :bow: :bow:


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Superb... Ive been dreaming of one of these for a long time. Wonderful pickup, i love hearing about true barn finds.... Helps keep the hope alive


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