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Tommy_PP
 Post subject: Breitling - help
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Hello,
please can you help me to identify watcho on the pictures (type, originality,...) Thanks


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I have not seen one quite like this before. I was going to say Sprint, but I have doubts.

Right hand sub dial is not correct and it should say SPRINT, but doesn't. Case scribe line above the lugs is something I am not familar with either. As for the hands, they look replacements but once again, I am not sure.

Looks like a Valjoux 7730 movement.

Anyone else out there have a better account of this than me?

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It's a Valjoux 7733 movement - the visible 7733 is a bit of a give away :poke: :lol:

(off topic, Fred the 7733 is one of the examples of the 30 or 45 minute subs that I mentioned).

It could be a 2211 Top Time but hands are wrong and would expect model and serial numbers on the back. Fred knows all about these tonneaus and will likely identify with one eye closed and both hands tied behind his back!
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junk, definitely not a 2211 - they use the same "square tonneau" as the 2111 Chrono-Matic", there is a similar case to this one, the 2011 Top Time that we only saw in the Japan catalog until now, just bouhjt one and will document this soon.

this one is all wrong
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WatchFred wrote:
junk, definitely not a 2211 - they use the same "square tonneau" as the 2111 Chrono-Matic", there is a similar case to this one, the 2011 Top Time that we only saw in the Japan catalog until now, just bouhjt one and will document this soon.

this one is all wrong



Interesting. Caseback engraving looks good, and with the exception of the odd subdials the dial doesn't look awful either. Or do I just need more caffeine.....
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling - help
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travelling, so just now see it an iPad screen, but verdict is unchanged, dial lack the detail of the Top Time line, no Top Time branding, "flat" subdials; hands are wrong.

The "Japan" TopTime would look like this - all we have until now:
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Roffensian wrote:
It's a Valjoux 7733 movement - the visible 7733 is a bit of a give away :poke: :lol:

(off topic, Fred the 7733 is one of the examples of the 30 or 45 minute subs that I mentioned).

It could be a 2211 Top Time but hands are wrong and would expect model and serial numbers on the back. Fred knows all about these tonneaus and will likely identify with one eye closed and both hands tied behind his back!



Sorry Guys. My eyes are bad, or perhaps I need caffeine. Could only see 773? Thought it was a 0 and not a 3. So, someone has loaded a 7733 into this junk case or did the watch start life as a different legitimate make? Interesting.

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Thank you very much guys. I have a chance to buy it, but I don´t know that the price is optimal. What do you think about the value?
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Tommy_PP wrote:
Thank you very much guys. I have a chance to buy it, but I don´t know that the price is optimal. What do you think about the value?



Given that Fred confirmed it was junk, absolutely nothing.
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