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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:55 pm 
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niczack if you really want a daytona all you need do is contact one of the trusted sellers on TRF. They will get you one in no time! IMO its a great watch and i would love to own one someday. some people hate the fact that it has no date, but i think the dial looks cleaner that way. as of late, less is more in my books.


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They are a dime a dozen out there. Not to mention TZ, watchnet, etc. If you get lucky I've seen some for flat 9k out the door.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:15 pm 
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niczack if you really want a daytona all you need do is contact one of the trusted sellers on TRF. They will get you one in no time! IMO its a great watch and i would love to own one someday. some people hate the fact that it has no date, but i think the dial looks cleaner that way. as of late, less is more in my books.


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They are a dime a dozen out there. Not to mention TZ, watchnet, etc. If you get lucky I've seen some for flat 9k out the door.


The Daytona is a beautiful watch and if I ever got a Rolex, that would be it (or maybe the older Sea Dweller)...but as of right now, it's a little out of my price range...that watch is equivalent to over two school semesters.... :lol:


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yes school comes first. plenty of time for watches. not sure what your collection looks like but if you had to just have one piece either of the ones that you mentioned will be forever classics!


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UPDATE: I just got my pre-loved Sub C last Wed. I still have my ExpII, but missed my first Sub C so I flipped something else. This one I have now was purchased in April 2011. I set the time last Wed to the atomic time clock, and to my surprise it has not moved EVEN ONE SECOND. :shock: I just love this thing. My ExpII is accurate to one second about every three days. This, along with other reasons, is in my opinion why Rolex watches hold their value a bit more than others. My other watches are gathering dust. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:49 pm 
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UPDATE: I just got my pre-loved Sub C last Wed. I still have my ExpII, but missed my first Sub C so I flipped something else. This one I have now was purchased in April 2011. I set the time last Wed to the atomic time clock, and to my surprise it has not moved EVEN ONE SECOND. :shock: I just love this thing. My ExpII is accurate to one second about every three days. This, along with other reasons, is in my opinion why Rolex watches hold their value a bit more than others. My other watches are gathering dust. :wink:

Congrats, you must be really happy to own one again. I've been really happy with the accuracy of mine, it's the second most accurate watch I've owned (most accurate was a Speedmaster).

In response to the OP, not much in my view. If I had to nominate weaknesses, I'd say that the lug design isn't as elegant as previous models (less noticeable when the watch is on the wrist though), the cyclops tends to polarise opinions, and the crystal could do with some AR. None of these bothers me though.


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I wore a daytona for a while. I think its a fantastic watch gorgeous, and contrary to the other post in places like carlsbad potomac/bethesda and greenwich ave I've never seen others wear one while "everyone" has a datejust/president or sub. Not having a date did annoy me and I went with a chronomat but miss the subdial balance of the daytona.

My dad mentioned the other day that everyone now has a BMW so maybe these observations are subjective... FWIW I'd love a Sub and will get a solid gold one some day and a v10 M5 is on my wish list as well (no slights implied)


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I don’t really get the whole nostalgia / historic bit about the Sub if it’s under 30 (or so) years old. It may have been a serious bit of kit as a diving watch when introduced, but many things used to be technically impressive. Steam engines used to be the pinnacle of technology… doesn’t mean I want one today. A standard Sub has a pressure rating today of 30bar. That is pretty dismal by modern standards. Unless you go for the Deep Sea it can’t still be considered a professional diving watch as the marketing would have you believe can it?

The bracelet, which has already been criticised, until the new Glidelock system was added, looked like it belonged on an old Seiko, and the clasp looked like it had been drawn out of scale to the bracelet and was made from old tin cans. I’ve heard the bracelet is very robust, but every used one I’ve tried has had too much stretch in the bracelet for the age of the watch, so I have to question that. The latest bracelet I could live with, and it may be technically good, but aesthetically it’s still a generation behind the Navitimer or Pilot bracelets, and yes it is too skinny at the clasp.

The only one I'd like to own is the Deep Sea. I do like the chunky bulk of it, but its price against a Seawolf… I couldn’t justify it. So I’ll stick with my Ti Seawolf, which for me is just as good looking a watch, possibly better.

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Most go the Rolex route at some point i have the 116710LN, 16610,116613LB, why do i have them because i liked them and they work, have i worn them not as mush as my Breitlings because there to plain jane, but like most have said it's another way of banking cash, there not mentioned in my sig because there off my radar for the moment gathering dust.


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i went Rubber B with the GMT to make it more wearable as well.

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I bought mine 18 months ago and have not regretted it for a second. Rolex sell a lot of watches but I suspect not that many stainless subs judging by the number you don't see in AD's windows.

no watch is perfect but I do not see me flipping mine any time soon.

I agree with all those above who appreciate the build, finish and accuracy of the sub.

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To summarize the Sub C limitations:

-Lack of AR coating
-Not very well weighted due to slimmer bracelet
-Bracelet doesn't streamline very well with the lugs
-Not very elegant lugs
-Cyclops date over distracts the main look and focus of the watch(subjective)
-Diameter can be improved to about 42mm(subjective)
-Over safe looks that causes it to be average looking and not unique. Plus too many people having it. However it can be a plus point as many users prefer conservative looking watches that are not blingy.
-Main downside is price, considering the fact that the technical specs of the watch are only average and doesn't really stand out from the mass overall. There are many models that can do the work of a sub but with a significantly lower price. However besides durability, resale is the main reason why many choose the Sub over the rest as they can easily flip a Sub close to what they have gotten whenever they want. It's like paying extra for that "insurance".
-I would like to personally add an additional limitation which actually applies to all Rolex and most watches - Power Reserve. My wife and I often have situations where we don't go out for 2 consecutive days(normally not more than that) and my wife will have to wind and set her Rolex again everytime before going out. I hardly do that since mine is B01. However I will want my watch to "rest" occasionally so as to slow down the wear and tear to lengthen the time I need to send in for servicing. Therefore under the advice given to me by Breitling Service Centre, I let my watch rest completely at least once every one to two weeks by allowing it to come to a complete stop. Therefore an overly long power reserve is not convenient for that purpose so 72 hours is the best IMO. 40 over hours of Power Reserve is too short for my needs.

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I generally go for larger pieces 44mm+ but wanted a milestone watch for my 40th that would be a keeper and still be happily sitting on my wrist in 30 years time. I can't really see myself as a 70 year old strapping on my Navi World, PAM or Omega XL PO - but perhaps I will, who knows.

For me, the Sub C is timeless and I found that the boxed shape gave it slightly more presence than it's predecessor. As mentioned in previous posts, the bracelet was a huge improvement from a quality and feel perspective.

I don't really care if it doesn't command a presence on my wrist, I bought it for myself and not for others.

Just my 2 cents........

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I generally go for larger pieces 44mm+ but wanted a milestone watch for my 40th that would be a keeper and still be happily sitting on my wrist in 30 years time. I can't really see myself as a 70 year old strapping on my Navi World, PAM or Omega XL PO - but perhaps I will, who knows.

For me, the Sub C is timeless and I found that the boxed shape gave it slightly more presence than it's predecessor. As mentioned in previous posts, the bracelet was a huge improvement from a quality and feel perspective.

I don't really care if it doesn't command a presence on my wrist, I bought it for myself and not for others.

Just my 2 cents........


If they come one with a larger diameter and better bracelet I will seriously consider.

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Chronomat01LE wrote:
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I generally go for larger pieces 44mm+ but wanted a milestone watch for my 40th that would be a keeper and still be happily sitting on my wrist in 30 years time. I can't really see myself as a 70 year old strapping on my Navi World, PAM or Omega XL PO - but perhaps I will, who knows.

For me, the Sub C is timeless and I found that the boxed shape gave it slightly more presence than it's predecessor. As mentioned in previous posts, the bracelet was a huge improvement from a quality and feel perspective.

I don't really care if it doesn't command a presence on my wrist, I bought it for myself and not for others.

Just my 2 cents........


If they come one with a larger diameter and better bracelet I will seriously consider.


ok im a little confused. what is wrong with the new 116610 bracelet. now with solid end links and self adjustable settings the thing is near flawless. to each their own i suppose


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SCC72 wrote:
I generally go for larger pieces 44mm+ but wanted a milestone watch for my 40th that would be a keeper and still be happily sitting on my wrist in 30 years time. I can't really see myself as a 70 year old strapping on my Navi World, PAM or Omega XL PO - but perhaps I will, who knows.

For me, the Sub C is timeless and I found that the boxed shape gave it slightly more presence than it's predecessor. As mentioned in previous posts, the bracelet was a huge improvement from a quality and feel perspective.

I don't really care if it doesn't command a presence on my wrist, I bought it for myself and not for others.

Just my 2 cents........


If they come one with a larger diameter and better bracelet I will seriously consider.


ok im a little confused. what is wrong with the new 116610 bracelet. now with solid end links and self adjustable settings the thing is near flawless. to each their own i suppose


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Chronomat01LE wrote:
SCC72 wrote:
I generally go for larger pieces 44mm+ but wanted a milestone watch for my 40th that would be a keeper and still be happily sitting on my wrist in 30 years time. I can't really see myself as a 70 year old strapping on my Navi World, PAM or Omega XL PO - but perhaps I will, who knows.

For me, the Sub C is timeless and I found that the boxed shape gave it slightly more presence than it's predecessor. As mentioned in previous posts, the bracelet was a huge improvement from a quality and feel perspective.

I don't really care if it doesn't command a presence on my wrist, I bought it for myself and not for others.

Just my 2 cents........


If they come one with a larger diameter and better bracelet I will seriously consider.


ok im a little confused. what is wrong with the new 116610 bracelet. now with solid end links and self adjustable settings the thing is near flawless. to each their own i suppose


I have tried it on several times but feel that the weight is not distributed evenly and it doesn't wrap that nicely on my wrist as pilot bracelet. Maybe I expected too much.

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