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Hi all.
I have read with concerns the replys in BRITLEX post about his Navitimer 01 movement problems.
Am I right in thinking that this 01 movement has flaws/teething problems ? The reason I ask is my next purchase (on deposit right now) is the expensive Red Gold Navitimer and I am a bit worried right now its a good watch to buy. Thanks

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Search function will reveal many, many threads on the 01 movement and the different problems that people have experienced. However, it will also show that for the last year Breitling has been offering a 5 year warranty with new 01 equipped pieces.


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Search function will reveal many, many threads on the 01 movement and the different problems that people have experienced. However, it will also show that for the last year Breitling has been offering a 5 year warranty with new 01 equipped pieces.

Roffensian. In your opinion should I spend my money on differant watch than a red gold Navitimer 01. Thanks

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From what I've gathered, the problems with the B01 movement are relatively rare relative to all of the B01s on the market. With that said, they are more common than the ETA-based models, that Breitling has made near bullet-proof after decades of real world statistics. It seems that while a maker can do all the testing in the world that some issues cannot be anticipated ahead of time and only real-world usage illustrates the problems clearly.

On a good note, it appears newer B01 models are having significantly fewer issues than they were previously, and that Breitling is committed to improving the B01 rather than moving on to another movement before refining what they have. Personally, if I could afford a rose gold Navi, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. IMO red gold is about the classiest statement one can make.


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From what I've gathered, the problems with the B01 movement are relatively rare relative to all of the B01s on the market. With that said, they are more common than the ETA-based models, that Breitling has made near bullet-proof after decades of real world statistics. It seems that while a maker can do all the testing in the world that some issues cannot be anticipated ahead of time and only real-world usage illustrates the problems clearly.

On a good note, it appears newer B01 models are having significantly fewer issues than they were previously, and that Breitling is committed to improving the B01 rather than moving on to another movement before refining what they have. Personally, if I could afford a rose gold Navi, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. IMO red gold is about the classiest statement one can make.

Hello Nick.
You reply made a lot of sense and thank you for it. My concerns are that relatively fewer Red Gold Navitimers have been made and sold and Im a bit worried that my one would be the "older version" with the defects still present. How can I find out if the one I have on deposit is the more recent version of the B01 Movement. Thank you very much.

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nickzac wrote:
From what I've gathered, the problems with the B01 movement are relatively rare relative to all of the B01s on the market. With that said, they are more common than the ETA-based models, that Breitling has made near bullet-proof after decades of real world statistics. It seems that while a maker can do all the testing in the world that some issues cannot be anticipated ahead of time and only real-world usage illustrates the problems clearly.

On a good note, it appears newer B01 models are having significantly fewer issues than they were previously, and that Breitling is committed to improving the B01 rather than moving on to another movement before refining what they have. Personally, if I could afford a rose gold Navi, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. IMO red gold is about the classiest statement one can make.

Hello Nick.
You reply made a lot of sense and thank you for it. My concerns are that relatively fewer Red Gold Navitimers have been made and sold and Im a bit worried that my one would be the "older version" with the defects still present. How can I find out if the one I have on deposit is the more recent version of the B01 Movement. Thank you very much.


Chances are if you get a rose gold Navi that your dealer will order it given the price and the various configurations (not sure if that would come from Breitling SA or an intermediate). I've never seen one in person at any AD actually. You may be best off using the MyBreitlingMadeToMeasure feature so you can get the dial and strap configuration you like and then your AD orders it from Breitling. Once you factor in buckle types, you have many possibilities for strap/bracelet configuration and IMO on red gold most color straps look really good so it is a tough choice (you may find yourself buying a few straps and if you do, IMO Breitling's OEM straps are among the nicest straps made, period). I priced one once with the red gold bracelet and then proceeded to personally crap myself lol...so you might as well get exactly what you want without compromise and by all means if you ask for a newer make the AD should comply given you are giving them a huge chunk of change.

Breitling is good about letting you know when a watch was born. You can date it this way: http://www.breitlingsource.com/articles_dating.shtml
(I assume gold models are still dated in that fashion...someone like Roff would know that for sure tho)

Breitling seems very committed to this movement. Whatever changes they have made I would venture they have done proactively on everything they have. Even if not, the probability of having an issue is arguably low and five year warranty gives a little more piece of mind. IMO the in-house movement really adds to the watch's character and that sounds like part of what you are interested in. The ETA-base movements Breitling uses (and partially creates by adding their own parts) are great and I love mine...but the in-house adds something even more special IMO.


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nickzac wrote:
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nickzac wrote:
From what I've gathered, the problems with the B01 movement are relatively rare relative to all of the B01s on the market. With that said, they are more common than the ETA-based models, that Breitling has made near bullet-proof after decades of real world statistics. It seems that while a maker can do all the testing in the world that some issues cannot be anticipated ahead of time and only real-world usage illustrates the problems clearly.

On a good note, it appears newer B01 models are having significantly fewer issues than they were previously, and that Breitling is committed to improving the B01 rather than moving on to another movement before refining what they have. Personally, if I could afford a rose gold Navi, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. IMO red gold is about the classiest statement one can make.

Hello Nick.
You reply made a lot of sense and thank you for it. My concerns are that relatively fewer Red Gold Navitimers have been made and sold and Im a bit worried that my one would be the "older version" with the defects still present. How can I find out if the one I have on deposit is the more recent version of the B01 Movement. Thank you very much.


Chances are if you get a rose gold Navi that your dealer will order it given the price and the various configurations (not sure if that would come from Breitling SA or an intermediate). I've never seen one in person at any AD actually. You may be best off using the MyBreitlingMadeToMeasure feature so you can get the dial and strap configuration you like and then your AD orders it from Breitling. Once you factor in buckle types, you have many possibilities for strap/bracelet configuration and IMO on red gold most color straps look really good so it is a tough choice (you may find yourself buying a few straps and if you do, IMO Breitling's OEM straps are among the nicest straps made, period). I priced one once with the red gold bracelet and then proceeded to personally crap myself lol...so you might as well get exactly what you want without compromise and by all means if you ask for a newer make the AD should comply given you are giving them a huge chunk of change.

Breitling is good about letting you know when a watch was born. You can date it this way: http://www.breitlingsource.com/articles_dating.shtml
(I assume gold models are still dated in that fashion...someone like Roff would know that for sure tho)

Breitling seems very committed to this movement. Whatever changes they have made I would venture they have done proactively on everything they have. Even if not, the probability of having an issue is arguably low and five year warranty gives a little more piece of mind. IMO the in-house movement really adds to the watch's character and that sounds like part of what you are interested in. The ETA-base movements Breitling uses (and partially creates by adding their own parts) are great and I love mine...but the in-house adds something even more special IMO.


Nick. Thank you so much for the reply.
The Gold Navi was ordered via my AD in Bristol directly from Breitling. The watch arrived within a week, wrapped up in the best box (Marble effect) and protection Ive ever seen.
Its comes on the black leather strap and Gold deployment clasp. this clasp alone costs £2000 above the pin and buckle type. It has the black dial .....the only option but it can have either the batons or Roman Numerials. Mine has the batons. Its a Major purchase for me hence why Im so concerned about the movement, which as you say is very important to me, Its the heart of the watch. I guess to find the date I will need to remove the strap?

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Enjoy your stunning new watch! :-)
Did it come with 1 or 5 yr warranty?


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Enjoy your stunning new watch! :-)
Did it come with 1 or 5 yr warranty?


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Hi Dr J. It comes with 5 year warranty.

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Well you should be able to sleep soundly then. Even if you are unlucky and something does happen, the 5 year warranty is great.

And then the full overhaul you do at the end of the warranty will give you peace of mind.


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Well you should be able to sleep soundly then. Even if you are unlucky and something does happen, the 5 year warranty is great.

And then the full overhaul you do at the end of the warranty will give you peace of mind.


Hi Dr J.
Yes Im a born worrier I guess and I should sleep easy knowing its all covered with a 5 year peace of mind warranty

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AlphabetABC wrote:
Dr J wrote:
Well you should be able to sleep soundly then. Even if you are unlucky and something does happen, the 5 year warranty is great.

And then the full overhaul you do at the end of the warranty will give you peace of mind.


Hi Dr J.
Yes Im a born worrier I guess and I should sleep easy knowing its all covered with a 5 year peace of mind warranty



Yup, just don't bang it into anything! :poke: Please post some pictures, I'm sure there are a lot of us that would like to see this beauty!

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...I'm sure there are a lot of us that would like to see this beauty!



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Nick. Thank you so much for the reply.
The Gold Navi was ordered via my AD in Bristol directly from Breitling. The watch arrived within a week, wrapped up in the best box (Marble effect) and protection Ive ever seen.
Its comes on the black leather strap and Gold deployment clasp. this clasp alone costs £2000 above the pin and buckle type. It has the black dial .....the only option but it can have either the batons or Roman Numerials. Mine has the batons. Its a Major purchase for me hence why Im so concerned about the movement, which as you say is very important to me, Its the heart of the watch. I guess to find the date I will need to remove the strap?


Glad my limited knowledge could help :)

Woah...it was in a marble box...do you have pics? It sounds like that is a different box from the standard one!

Personally, I like the batons myself as well :D

If you want to see the date, you will most likely have to remove the strap to see it. It sounds like they ordered it tho, so I imagine it wasn't a model that has been sitting in a case for extended time, especially given that's a much more expensive piece than most other models. It's actually a very easy task to remove tho with a Bergeon spring bar tool and chances are you will want multiple straps for the watch which means it's as simple as changing them out (for my one Breitling, I have about 30 different straps in a variety of materials, sizes, thicknesses, colors, and patterns! :p).

But please do post pics. That's a rare model and there is something about red gold which is almost mesmerizing.


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