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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:49 pm 
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What are the risk of buying emergency E56321 from ebay ? saw 1 recently went for $2500 without box or papers with yellow dial, how much an emergency worth to pay without box and papers? is there any resell value in the future
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It's like any other Breitling - check that it's real by asking in the replica section and buy the seller first. Like virtually any other watch it will lose value as it gets older, but buying used means that the worst loss has already been taken and you won't lose too much.

With the Emergency you need to ask an AD for the declaration that needs to be signed around the use of the transmitter but they can handle that easily enough.


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With no box or papers how to tell how old is the watch or what year it was made/purchased? any idea?

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http://www.breitlingsource.com/articles_dating.shtml

I would not necessarily be hesitant to buy an Emergency on eBay, but our ADs on this forum have had that model for around 3k with recent service, all parts (including the briefcase), and a warranty. When a seller sells a watch without any sort of service records, the cost of a service should be factored in for what you are willing to pay. If you add the service to the cost of the model on eBay, you pay essentially the same. All my personal opinion.


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I can't find one listed in dealer thread


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Without box and papers is always going to take a fair bit of money off; but I'd imagine even more so with the Emergency. The box isn't just a nice box, it has all the various extra bits including the alarm tester and other bits. A really nice piece of kit; the box alone is worth a fair bit of money, so the price for a watch without this should be quite a bit less. Without papers is a major problem, I'd have thought as well, as the original owner has to sign the declaration that they will not deploy the transmitter unless in real emergency. Put it this way, if I was a buyer I'd be using these points to have a fair whack taken off the price; in terms of actual money off, well I would be looking at around £400 at least, I would have thought.


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i wonder if it could be a risk if the seller did not service it before and end up me going for an overhaul when it reached my hand, i would take advice here as said i can get the Emergency by throwing couple of hundreds more to get it with box and papers

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thunderbirds wrote:
i wonder if it could be a risk if the seller did not service it before and end up me going for an overhaul when it reached my hand, i would take advice here as said i can get the Emergency by throwing couple of hundreds more to get it with box and papers



With most watches a lack of service will detract from the price - especially as the age increases, however with the Emergency / Emergency Mission the first service is free so if it is the first service that has been missed then it's not really a disadvantage.


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thunderbirds wrote:
i wonder if it could be a risk if the seller did not service it before and end up me going for an overhaul when it reached my hand, i would take advice here as said i can get the Emergency by throwing couple of hundreds more to get it with box and papers


The one I was referencing actually sold this week :(

I advocate an AD because if something goes wrong, you have someone in your corner and with these watches, when something goes wrong, it means $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. My opinion is probably influenced by my AD who has gone above and beyond for me, which has saved me a lot of time and money. You also find watches on this forum frequently in spectacular condition with a full trail of paperwork...I found one here that was literally documented from birth to the day I got it. It wasn't much more than the going rate from eBay either, so it may be worth the wait. Emergency's pop up on this forum a lot from both individual sellers and the many ADs here.



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thunderbirds wrote:
i wonder if it could be a risk if the seller did not service it before and end up me going for an overhaul when it reached my hand, i would take advice here as said i can get the Emergency by throwing couple of hundreds more to get it with box and papers



With most watches a lack of service will detract from the price - especially as the age increases, however with the Emergency / Emergency Mission the first service is free so if it is the first service that has been missed then it's not really a disadvantage.


To my understanding, the battery replacement on these is very complicated. Does the Emergency run the risk of having had a battery replaced by someone other than BUSA and what would the implications of that be?


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nickzac wrote:
thunderbirds wrote:
i wonder if it could be a risk if the seller did not service it before and end up me going for an overhaul when it reached my hand, i would take advice here as said i can get the Emergency by throwing couple of hundreds more to get it with box and papers


The one I was referencing actually sold this week :(

I advocate an AD because if something goes wrong, you have someone in your corner and with these watches, when something goes wrong, it means $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. My opinion is probably influenced by my AD who has gone above and beyond for me, which has saved me a lot of time and money. You also find watches on this forum frequently in spectacular condition with a full trail of paperwork...I found one here that was literally documented from birth to the day I got it. It wasn't much more than the going rate from eBay either, so it may be worth the wait. Emergency's pop up on this forum a lot from both individual sellers and the many ADs here.



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thunderbirds wrote:
i wonder if it could be a risk if the seller did not service it before and end up me going for an overhaul when it reached my hand, i would take advice here as said i can get the Emergency by throwing couple of hundreds more to get it with box and papers



With most watches a lack of service will detract from the price - especially as the age increases, however with the Emergency / Emergency Mission the first service is free so if it is the first service that has been missed then it's not really a disadvantage.


To my understanding, the battery replacement on these is very complicated. Does the Emergency run the risk of having had a battery replaced by someone other than BUSA and what would the implications of that be?


Unless things have changed BUSA doesn't service them anyway, they get sent to Europe because of the transmitter service. Battery changes are battery changes, but servicing needs to be done properly. Dassault are the only ones who used to be authorised to service the transmitter and like any Breitling no independent watchmaker is authorised to service it.


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Unless things have changed BUSA doesn't service them anyway, they get sent to Europe because of the transmitter service. Battery changes are battery changes, but servicing needs to be done properly. Dassault are the only ones who used to be authorised to service the transmitter and like any Breitling no independent watchmaker is authorised to service it.


So do you think that Dassault refuse to work on one if someone who is not authorized attempted to change or did change the battery? (if so, I have to assume that creates a big consideration when buying from eBay??)


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nickzac wrote:
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Unless things have changed BUSA doesn't service them anyway, they get sent to Europe because of the transmitter service. Battery changes are battery changes, but servicing needs to be done properly. Dassault are the only ones who used to be authorised to service the transmitter and like any Breitling no independent watchmaker is authorised to service it.


So do you think that Dassault refuse to work on one if someone who is not authorized attempted to change or did change the battery? (if so, I have to assume that creates a big consideration when buying from eBay??)



I've never heard of it.


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i wonder how much the price difference could make between 56321 and 76321
read somewhere in forum when sending the emergency for servicing and the owner was offered to upgrade for SuperQuartz which cost a fortune, the dealer i spoke to have a E56321 and sold a 76321 before for same price

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sometime people don't know which model they are selling, or more importantly buying, there are missions for sale at watchfinder for near enough the same price but one is newer than the other.


the BE is a fine watch and the yellow face is a lovely watch, if only they did it in a polished case like the mission i would be all over it like a rash.

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