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Dude that is nuts. I wonder what kind of watch it was now

probably just the latest from gshock... :0

He is an "artist" and made the watch himself. It was described as "an ornate watch that had switches, wires and fuses." Maybe he was testing limits it trying to get his name/art in the paper. Doesn't sound like it looked much like a watch. More like a wrist bomb.


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More evidence that the TSA is getting out of control... (Ron Paul said it best)

Seriously???? The TSA stops some one with a devise that to the best of there knowledge. Is an unknown device. Would you put YOUR life in that guys hands? Where where you during 911 or have you forgotten?
Every time I travel I'm damn glad the TSA is there and staying vigilant. You never know when the next threat will come or in what form it will come.

Believe me, we are at war and this war is not against a country, it's against fanatics that would kill you to make their point and they don't care about you or what you think.

Next time your inconvenienced remember why they are there...then NEVER FORGET. And try thanking them.

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Supposedly you have forgotten the Fourth Amendment of the United States Constitution and all of the out of control antics of the TSA, such as stripping children with disabilities naked, groping people in public, and denying people basic decency because of cultural characteristics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Ame ... nstitution

U.S. vs David effectively allowed TSA (and now DHS) to overwrite the 4th Amendment but without any sort of administrative review or check and balance system. I doubt the Framers would approve in current format. So no, I have not forgotten about 9/11 and no, I have not forgotten we are at war, but I have also not forgotten we are a democracy and that any and all authority should have a system of oversight, which the TSA/DHS does not have.

Show me a fair means of administrative review that can look at TSA action and rule if it was fair or not in regards to freedom given up while flying for the sake of everyone's safety versus basic human/civil rights. No, you don't know when the next threat will come but there is a limit and it is currently not being observed.

Welcome to the New world, the forth amendment and MANY other amendments were written in a time when the world was a much bigger place, a time when they weren’t using passenger aircraft as weapons of mass destruction. I am certain if our fore fathers where living today they would be changing the laws too.
Times change and our laws must reflect the situations and times. Old laws from days gone past don't always have a place in modern society.

Yes, we are a Democracy and I vote to have people detained and searched. The reason that you see little Timmy and Grandma searched is because it makes HEADLINES. The TSA has to make snap decisions in the middle of busy airports. The PASSENGERS consent to the search. Know the rules. They can always decline the search and get held back. But people want to take every situation and record it with their cell so the media can turn it into things that they are not. Don't be a puppet of the media. They take everything and blow it out of proportion because it sells and people believe them. I for one don’t believe much of the media anymore. While there may be some truth to what they say it’s mostly blown out.

Oh and in case you haven’t seen it, little Timmy in the Arab world will blow you to kingdom come. But since we are not allowed to Profile we have to be equal to all. That’s why you get to see the stupidity of our own laws taken to extreme measures. Fight about it all you like, it’s not changing. But if you get your way and it does change I hope you experience the loss that so many others have because of these fanatics. If that’s what it takes to wake you up then you need to know the pain of losing a loved one or your loved ones loosing YOU.

It’s real easy to preach the Fourth amendment from the sidelines, Join the rest of us who have fought, lost and cried then talk to me.

Sorry to all this can get real heated real fast. But I will not stand by and let someone make a foolish comment about the TSA or any organization that is protecting me every time I fly. I love my Country, I served my country and have lost loved ones for this country. I appologize for expressing that so publicly to those who don't desire to hear it. I am finished here, back to discussing Brietlings.

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Protecting you? Now that's funny!

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I am not against giving the TSA (or any law enforcement) discretion and even room to prevent accusations of profiling, but there needs to be more oversight for the TSA when events do occur that are clearly taken to the extreme. Every LE agency in the US has a system of checks and balances and the US Military has a very developed one (that virtually no one questions due to the integrity), so why doesn't the TSA have this level of oversight? Incorporate oversight and regardless of my statement (on a forum with little to no value anywhere), the system will do its job, and even conceivably protect TSA employees if they are confronted with false/embellished accusations. Perhaps my initial statement was overly dry. Either way, we can agree to disagree.

And you aren't the only one who's lost loved ones dude. I'm the prime age of people who are currently serving. I've lost friends in my cohort as well, and I have friends that have lost many of their friends, and I've seen just how much of a hell they go through every day. Many of my friends disappear for long blocks of time doing what they do, which they can't even discuss. I live on the east coast right between DC and NY. I have friends who lost family and had family members injured on 9/11 in DC. If you think I am that far detached from the situation you've made an error in judgement. I love the US too.

Purely from a privacy standpoint, no one - I repeat no one! - more laments the abuses on our civil rights created by the politics of fear in general and the Patriot Act in particular. One of my favorite quotes is, and I'm paraphrasing, "those who surrender any of the substantial guarantees of liberty for the sake of security shall have, nor deserve, either one." (Variously attributed to Franklin or Jefferson). I despise how both political parties have USED 911 to further their partisan vested interests by using fear. Frankly, it plain pisses me off.

That said, the "watch" was “Created to look like a timer with switches, wires and fuses… Sgt. J.D. Nelson, spokesman for the Alameda County Sheriff’s Department, told the Associated Press that the man had “all the components” to make an “improvised explosive device,” minus the explosive material. Police officials were concerned about the passenger’s unusually large shoe size. The man’s oversized UGG boots, which were two sizes larger than his feet, were stuffed with layers of insoles – a perfect place to store explosives, Nelson said. McGann also had no checked bag and was wearing a military-style shirt and tourniquet bands, which is uncommon. His carry-on luggage contained no clothes.”

You can't tell me this jack off wasn't aiming to get arrested just to get his name in the paper. Now we are debating his case - just what oddball publicity hounds like this dufus want. (I deleted his name from the above because I'm not giving him what he wants...at least not here on this site.)

Ok, he ###hole got the 15 minutes of fame he was seeking and disrupted an entire airport in the process.

Enough!


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Ok, with those details I guess this was warranted...that's just poor judgement on the guy's behalf. I only saw the initial article that didn't mention that. I guess I assumed someone would have more common sense than that.

I wouldn't be so sure.

One comment I can add to this post, which I find interesting not having an intimate knowledge of TSA's internal procedures.....

I've been traveling quite a bit lately for work and when I go through the body scanners, sometimes my Avenger Seawolf sets it off and sometimes it doesn't. And it is consistent at the different airports. However, in the event it does come up on the body scanner, they only ask to see it and have never asked me to take it off for further inspection. I'd imagine if wires and such were hanging out of it, that might be a different story. So I'm guessing there is someone behind the scenes observing the body scan images.

This makes me think of when I had a Seawolf and set off the alarm at the San Antonio airport. The TSA agent, a woman with a heavy Texas draw, said, "Well it's that BIG ASS watch. What's wrong with you?"


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