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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:08 pm 
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And perhaps my favorite thing from Zenith is the reviews on the Defy series on Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Zenith-96-0529-40 ... ewpoints=1

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I wasn't going to buy this watch, but then I noticed Amazon had it with $58,000 off! What a deal. With the money I saved I purchased a brand new BMW and still had money left over for a Disney vacation. How many watches save you money to buy a car and a vacation?

Now whenever I see someone with money troubles I tell them to buy this watch and save $58,000. I am considering buying 10 of these watches so I can save $580,000 and buy a house on cash. Retirement saving is also no longer a concern for me, as I plan to buy one every year and live off the $58,000 I save.
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Mate, you have made my day, guess this thread was good for something after all... Great fun this!

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Robertus61 wrote:
I had a beautiful Zenith Chronomaster full calendar cal. 410 and had plenty of problems. The watch went back to Le Locle some 4 or 5 times for various problems when I decided to sell it. In the end I just wanted to have the watch serviced once in the life correctly to be able to sell it without cheating the buyer. But never, never Zenith again.

My Chronomat 44 has been back to Breitling 4 times for the exact same problem. Upon receiving it back, it has conveniently developed a new, but similar, problem. I've decided to just stop sending it, as Breitling clearly cannot fix it. Every manufacturer will produce a poor quality watch every now and then. I happen to be one of the very unlucky ones on this forum, but there are plenty of others who have had no issues.

Roff's issue with Zenith customer service is one thing; I can appreciate why he's stayed away from the brand. Breitling may be inept at fixing my watch, but I can't truly fault their customer service. I don't think your issues with Zenith justify bashing the brand.

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Well, as much as lemons are a reality in manufacturing (and not only in watch making), it's hard to understand why a manufacturer doesn't do anything in its power to correct a rotten situation. Funny thing is, it's customers that face huge problems that have encountered the worst customer service possible.

As a result, unhappy customers shout much louder than satisfied ones.

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F14D_Tomcat wrote:
As a result, unhappy customers shout much louder than satisfied ones.

That's always the way.

But the bizarre thing is, the quality of the customer service can completely change a persons perception. If a customer has a problem with a watch, BUT the manufacturer bends over backwards to sort it out (plus actually fixes it!), you will often find the customer is MORE positive about the brand as a result than if he'd never experienced a problem in the first place! Far too many companies totally discount the importance of customer service in favour of a quick buck on the sale.

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Driver8 wrote:
But the bizarre thing is, the quality of the customer service can completely change a persons perception. If a customer has a problem with a watch, BUT the manufacturer bends over backwards to sort it out (plus actually fixes it!), you will often find the customer is MORE positive about the brand as a result than if he'd never experienced a problem in the first place! Far too many companies totally discount the importance of customer service in favour of a quick buck on the sale.


Right. I'm of the "s**t happens, it's how it gets dealt with" school.


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F14D_Tomcat wrote:
As a result, unhappy customers shout much louder than satisfied ones.

That's always the way.

But the bizarre thing is, the quality of the customer service can completely change a persons perception. If a customer has a problem with a watch, BUT the manufacturer bends over backwards to sort it out (plus actually fixes it!), you will often find the customer is MORE positive about the brand as a result than if he'd never experienced a problem in the first place! Far too many companies totally discount the importance of customer service in favour of a quick buck on the sale.


That is exactly what I was trying to say. I do not understand why a manufacturer doesn't bend backward to fix a problem, as a rule of thumb, even if the guarantee is over. Customers would be so much more positive of the brand. It is something I always try to give my customers.

Personally, I've only had positive experiences with After Sales (and not only with cars or watches) but clearly that is not the case for everyone.

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