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Hey guys,

does anyone have a recommendations for what spring bars to use with the Bentley motors, lug size 24mm?
I want to get a different bracelet, and make sure I get the right spring bars.

also, what thickness?

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Just go to your AD, they'll probably give you some for free. The spring bars for the straps is longer than the ones for the bracelet.

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Just go to your AD, they'll probably give you some for free. The spring bars for the straps is longer than the ones for the bracelet.
Hi, Admin. Actually, the length is the same for strap or bracelet springbars for a specific watch. The design of the springbar is two is different as described in an article of mine on another forum. Below is a cut and paste of that post...


Swapping straps and bracelets is a great way to increase enjoyment of your Breitling watch. The following information will hopefully encourage the reader to try the procedure for him/herself... :-!

These are original Breitling strap and bracelet springbars. Sorry for the lack of detail but if you look close you can see a conical point on the bracelet springbar. This is to help guide it into the inner interhorn holes while CAREFULLY attaching the bracelet. Notice it also has a chamfered shoulder on the outside diameter of the barrel. This is to help position the springbar tool (Please do NOT use a small screwdriver as a springbar tool unless you like scratches and gouges on the case and interhorns.) onto the springbar shaft for insertion into the interhorn hole. (Note: the Bergeon 6111 has removable tips for both types of springbars and is the perfect tool IMO. Link to a source is here: http://lonestarwatches.com/accessories.htm? ) The strap springbar doesn't need this chamfered shoulder because the springbar tool bit is more of a notched "shovel" as opposed to a sharp "fork" for the bracelet springbar tool bit. You can use the bracelet springbar for strap attachment but it is unwise to use strap springbars for bracelet installation because of the likelihood of slippage and scratching. Please don't trust a jeweler or anyone who does'nt know the difference between springbars. I hope this helps clear up some confusion for those of you who would like to swap between straps and bracelets. Two or more watches for the price of one! :-) To illustrate the difference...


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Every Breitling wtih its original bracelet has the springbars as shown on the right in those two pics. Every strap I have (7 at this time and 7 bracelets as well) has the springbars illustrated on the left. In addition to all of the 22mm springbars I have I also have packages of 15mm, 16mm, and 18mm springbars for my familie's Breitlings. All of them are exactly the same for bracelet and exactly the same for strap. Their watches all were originally equipped with "Pilot" bracelets and all configurations concurr when straps were ordered and/or added. I have a Breitling Authorized Service center here which will corroborate this information because that is where I received and validated it. That is also where I was shown how to properly adjust a Breitling bracelet by "biasing" the links to the North side of the watch which ergonomically balances the deployant clasp correctly. Here are examples of correctly balanced Navitimer and Fighter bracelets...

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Hope this helps! :-)
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Thank a lot Ron! Very helpful and great pics!

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Excellent info there Ron. :thumbsup:

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NIce info indeed Ron.


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Just go to your AD, they'll probably give you some for free. The spring bars for the straps is longer than the ones for the bracelet.
Hi, Admin. Actually, the length is the same for strap or bracelet springbars for a specific watch. The design of the springbar is two is different as described in an article of mine on another forum. Below is a cut and paste of that post...


Great post Ron, however they are different lengths at least in one case.

They are different as you say with the end shape, however if you look at the 24mm springbar for the Breitling for Bentley Motors strap, it is longer than the 24mm springbar for the bracelet. By quite a bit... enough that the strap one is too long it doesn't fit... don't make me take pictures to prove it ;)

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Thanks to Ron, your article is just great !

I bought a Leather strap for my SA with 2 springbars (as Ron described), but they're 24,4mm when I push them together .... will they fit my SA ?
I wound'nt try before I am really sure they will fit. Any advice ?

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Very interesting article, thanks!

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I just took my new Chronospace to the local AD w/ the set of springbars I already had (looks like the one on the left in the first picture of post #3) and there is no way they will fit with the new pro 3 bracelet. Myself and the jeweler tried for about 20 min w/ the springbar tool, just had to admit it wasn't going to work. After reading this thread, I think my problem is trying to use the strap springbars with a bracelet; until now I didn't know there was a difference.

1. I just want to confirm my suspicion is correct
2. Where can I get the correct springbars for the pro 3 bracelet (24mm)? Unfortunately the AD here in Japan said at least a month to order them and I'm guessing I can find them faster online.

Thanks for the help!


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Holy old threads batman! :)

Quite a few more recent threads on spring bars, that may be worth reviewing for other supplier recommendations but www.ofrei.com is pretty good.


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Ha, didn't even catch that...I suppose 5 yrs is quite a revival. Thanks for the point out!


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I pick up the Diver pro111 tomorrow for my Skyland. Do All new straps and bracelets come complete with new spring bars? I never even considered they would be different. I bought a Bergeon 6767F to swap the Pro11 bracelet to the rubber, will this do the job?

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Working Man wrote:
I pick up the Diver pro111 tomorrow for my Skyland. Do All new straps and bracelets come complete with new spring bars? I never even considered they would be different. I bought a Bergeon 6767F to swap the Pro11 bracelet to the rubber, will this do the job?



6767F is the preferred tool, check with the AD whether the spring bars are with the strap, if not the AD should have some.


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Thank You, worst case, will my bracelet spring bars be ok for the rubber?

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