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Alright next watch im considering. Omega planet ocean 45.5mm 8500 movement. Seems like a decent watch. I used to have a smp 300 and loved it except it was a little small. Just seems expensive for a non chronograph omega.....


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What info would you like? It's probably my favorite watch that I have ever owned although I own the 42mm version. There isn't a better value on the market than the new PO 8500's END OF DISCUSSION! Ceramic bezel, inhouse movement, beautiful case, great finishing on the movement, solid bracelet with screws to remove links; overall it's a beast.

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£3700 may initially seem like a lot for a Planet Ocean. But the new models has the new 8500 Omega in-house Co-Axial movement with silicon balance. Plus you get a sapphire glass casbeck to admire it through.

We had one through the shop the other day and I personally think it measures up well against other in-house divers watches.

Given the funds I would love one. I am also predicting the residuals will be strong after various Olympic stars are seen wearing them over the summer and a certain James Bond wears one in Septtember's film.

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Mfserge. I want that same exact watch except for xl size. I def like omega I just need a bigger watch than my old smp 300


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Yeah it seems a lot, but I think it's worth it. This watch puts Omega up a notch, and it shouldn't be compared to previous models price-wise.

The PO isn't a Sub competitor yet IMO but it's getting closer (there are threads on Rolex forums seriously comparing them, that would never have happened with the old one). I can't think of a similar watch with an in-house movement and comparable features for the price.


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Yeah, that's the hard part in my mind. I can get a super avenger for the same price roughly.....im gonna have to try one on


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Otto wrote:
Yeah it seems a lot, but I think it's worth it. This watch puts Omega up a notch, and it shouldn't be compared to previous models price-wise.

The PO isn't a Sub competitor yet IMO but it's getting closer (there are threads on Rolex forums seriously comparing them, that would never have happened with the old one). I can't think of a similar watch with an in-house movement and comparable features for the price.

Personally I think the latest PO is a very capable competitor to the Sub. All the Omega lacks is the all-conquering, world-subjugating brand recognition of Rolex.... but then there's no a watch maker in the world that can compete with that as far as the general (i.e. non-WIS) public is concerned.

For me, the PO does absolutely everything the Sub does (and more in some cases), and the only thing I think it suffers from very slightly perception-wise is the fact that the older model wasn't in-house. I almost feel they should've made it a new model when they went in-house - then it would've been a Sub-beater right off the bat.

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The PO isn't a Sub competitor yet IMO but it's getting closer (there are threads on Rolex forums seriously comparing them, that would never have happened with the old one). I can't think of a similar watch with an in-house movement and comparable features for the price.


Otto - I tend to agree with a lot of your opinions but I disagree on this one. The new PO is absolutely 100% a competitor to the Sub. I've owned the new ceramic Sub, and I have the new POs, and without a doubt the PO gives the Sub a run. Aside from the amazing sub clasp, there isn't one advantage that I would give the Sub over the new POs, except for having a great cyclops :poke: . If someone is after a thinner watch then the PO is not the right watch because its on the thick side.

We have a member on here who currently has the SubC and the new PO 8500. I'd like his take.. PETE where are you???

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The PO isn't a Sub competitor yet IMO but it's getting closer (there are threads on Rolex forums seriously comparing them, that would never have happened with the old one). I can't think of a similar watch with an in-house movement and comparable features for the price.


Otto - I tend to agree with a lot of your opinions but I disagree on this one. The new PO is absolutely 100% a competitor to the Sub. I've owned the new ceramic Sub, and I have the new POs, and without a doubt the PO gives the Sub a run. Aside from the amazing sub clasp, there isn't one advantage that I would give the Sub over the new POs, except for having a great cyclops :poke: . If someone is after a thinner watch then the PO is not the right watch because its on the thick side.

We have a member on here who currently has the SubC and the new PO 8500. I'd like his take.. PETE where are you???

I actually put the PO above the Sub for me just because of the OEM options between bracelet and straps. Plus the availability of the 45mm version. You want a Rolex in that size range you need the DSSD which is bricklike in it's thickness and has the ridiculous looking 18mm bracelet.

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In terms of quality, I think the PO can compete with the Sub. In terms of styling, I just don't think the PO has the universality of the Sub, especially the newer POs. That's my opinion after looking at both in person. I'm not against the POs, but I think the the Sub has a certain "definitive" look that makes it work in any situation. I think the newer POs look a little too sporty to be that universally wearable, and as Sergio mentioned, they're quite thick - far too thick for my tastes. Now, the original Liquidmetal PO is a different matter. I actually do think the Liquidmetal competes with the Sub in terms of styling, but there you're talking about an ETA-based model, so it isn't on the same page in terms of WIS appeal.

All of this belies the fact that the OP wants a bigger watch, which is certainly something he would get going with an XL PO. I tried one on recently, and it's one big chunk of watch.


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My Aqua Terra 8500 is still fantastic, so I can vouch for the movement!

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I think the the Sub has a certain "definitive" look that makes it work in any situation. I think the newer POs look a little too sporty to be that universally wearable.


Agree that the sub has a definitive look but give me an example of a situation where a sub will work but the PO 8500 wouldn't? Because I have yet to find a situation where I can only wear my GMT IIc but not the PO. Unless you're planning on having dinner with the Queen, these three watches will work in every situation exactly the same way.

Yes the PO 8500 is thicker than the sub but that doesn't exclude it from the board room, a fancy restaurant, or wedding etc. The POC 9300 is a different story, that watch is thick, but the PO 8500 is a very versatile watch.

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For a minute the Rolex deep sea was on my radar. It's big but on an 8" wrist it's still not the effect I was going for, it's really only a 43mm. And has a resiculously sized bracelet in comparison to the watch. Until they make a bigger diam watch (if they ever do) I'll prob never own a rolex..... :(

I've been looking at the PO all day, I really need to try one on. I'm basically down to that or a SA. I'll prob eventually own both but can't do both at the same time....


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mfserge wrote:
Otto wrote:
The PO isn't a Sub competitor yet IMO but it's getting closer (there are threads on Rolex forums seriously comparing them, that would never have happened with the old one). I can't think of a similar watch with an in-house movement and comparable features for the price.


Otto - I tend to agree with a lot of your opinions but I disagree on this one. The new PO is absolutely 100% a competitor to the Sub. I've owned the new ceramic Sub, and I have the new POs, and without a doubt the PO gives the Sub a run. Aside from the amazing sub clasp, there isn't one advantage that I would give the Sub over the new POs, except for having a great cyclops :poke: . If someone is after a thinner watch then the PO is not the right watch because its on the thick side.

We have a member on here who currently has the SubC and the new PO 8500. I'd like his take.. PETE where are you???


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mfserge wrote:
Agree that the sub has a definitive look but give me an example of a situation where a sub will work but the PO 8500 wouldn't?

I know lawyers who wear '80s vintage Casio digital watches to court, so I'm not sure there's ever really a situation where you can't wear a given watch, in this day and age. However, when I said the PO isn't as universally wearable, what I really meant was that I don't like the way the current-gen POs look as much as the current Sub. The POs are chunkier, clunkier, the ceramic bezel is matte in texture and washed out looking, and they generally don't look as classy as the Sub, IMO. The Sub is more refined in its lines, has a lacquered dial, white gold applied indices, and a shiny, black ceramic bezel that is actually black, all while retaining a functional, "tool watch" look. To me, the Sub looks classic, whereas the PO looks contemporary. Put another way, the Sub speaks to me, where as the PO does not, and for that reason, I don't consider the PO to be in the same league as the Sub. That's a purely personal preference, and I understand if people don't agree with me on it.


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