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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:37 pm 
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DanFromDetroit wrote:
This actually happened to me when I bought my S4. I got the keys and a low fuel light on when I left the dealership. I was... displeased.


Luckily your S4 doesn't need gas. It runs on happiness. Audi innovation.

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2 years ago I bought a new motorcycle and ran out of gas 3 blocks from the dealer, and got a flat rear tire when I pulled off the road.


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Driver8 wrote:
IMO Breitling will need to go fully in-house á la Rolex or JLC if they want to start taking an no discount policy route.

People will pay for brand image and exclusivity, and at the moment Breitling have neither (relatively speaking of course) if they want to play with the big boys.

IMO if they want to play that kind of game, they need to ditch the playschool coloured lower-end peices, lose the *ahem* "trendy" fonts, up the "classiness" of the ranges to that of the Navi and TO series, and (as said above) go fully in-house.

There's no way on Earth I'd pay full RRP for a red-rubber-bezeled, DLC coated POS running a bog standard ETA. But I might pay full retail for a classically and timelessly styled, in-house equiped piece that I know will look just as good in 30 years as it does now.


" . But I might pay full retail for a classically and timelessly styled, in-house equiped piece that I know will look justs good in 30 years as it does now."

Exactly!!

Breitling seems to change models like I change underwear - daily. Discontinue the Steelfish - WTF.

I hate to say it but Breitling seems to be a rudderless ship under full power.

Raise the price and expect full MSRP? I don't think so - not at this time.

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mrbill wrote:
Breitling seems to change models like I change underwear - daily.

The difference is, when you change drawers, you put on a clean pair. Breitling just goes from one skidded-up pair to another.


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mrbill wrote:
Breitling seems to change models like I change underwear - daily.

The difference is, when you change drawers, you put on a clean pair. Breitling just goes from one skidded-up pair to another.


Priceless.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:31 pm 
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How can Breitling see the current status of the economy and expect people to pay "near" retail for a watch? Sure there are those that will still buy no matter what (i.e. the trendy places like Florida example), but like many have said here, sales would suffer greatly. I think there's a descent sized market of customers like myself who don't have the money to accept a 10% discount on a 5K+ watch, but we'll actually think about it with more "normal" discounts...simply because we prioritize money elsewhere in our lives.

Just today I went into an AD in Hawaii and while she was fitting the new aero classic bracelet I bought (at a 30% discount mind you) she remarked how they hadn't been moving too many Breitlings until they put up a 25% off sale sign and then people starting coming in and sales increased relatively significantly. So if 25% is what it takes to move product at a decent amount, what the hell does Breitling expect from a 5-10% discount cap?



They put up a 25% off SIGN!?!

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Someone from Breitling that is reading this, and they do, is now thinking I'm taking a free trip to Hawaii to check on all the ADs there.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:04 pm 
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Someone from Breitling that is reading this, and they do, is now thinking I'm taking a free trip to Hawaii to check on all the ADs there.



I know.

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The fact that Breitling people read this website is why I took the expanded use of the Buck Rogers font last year as a pretty clear indication they're flipping us the bird and laughing their asses off while they do it.

Keep laughing, Breitling. TAG town is right around the corner.


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Sales numbers will speak to Breitling far more than anything they read here. I've read that the Transocean line has been very successful for them. I hope that's true and that they think hard about why that is.

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CH-dmath wrote:
Sales numbers will speak to Breitling far more than anything they read here.

Very true. If more new people are attracted to the currently line-up at the expense of a few old die-hard fans (like us here), Breitling seem only too pleased p*ss away 90% of their herritage design-wise in favour of a "try anything and something might stick and sell OK" approach.

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I've read that the Transocean line has been very successful for them. I hope that's true and that they think hard about why that is.

Exactly (if it's true). The TOC especially is a great watch.

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They put up a 25% off SIGN!?!


They sure did. To be fair it was a generic sign that applied to all products in the store, just so happens a good percentage of their products are Breitling. So, doesn't take a very smart man to put 2 and 2 together.


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jnelson3097 wrote:
Someone from Breitling that is reading this, and they do, is now thinking I'm taking a free trip to Hawaii to check on all the ADs there.


Not just Hawaii, they might as well book a round the world trip while they're at it.
Same story everywhere ;-)

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I wonder how the 5 year warranty fits into all of this. Breitling might see it as a way to help justify decreased discounts, hence the timing of the latest crackdown. As more models move to in-house movements this would become more true. The warranty could also be, in part, an attempt to cut down on gray market sales. I'm not the best judge since I wouldn't buy gray market anyway but IF I was considering gray market, I'd have to think awfully hard about walking away from a 5 year warranty.

Or maybe I just have an overactive imagination and too much time on my hands today.

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You're not going to get different discounts between in house / not in house. The differential is already there in the list prices.


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I wasn't thinking of a two-tier discount structure. More using the warranty as a way to help break ADs of "excessive" discounting in preparation for the day when they will, presumably, have all manufacture movements. Like I said, too much time on my hands...

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