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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:33 am 
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rik wrote:
ok, so, to summarize:

- watch: all original but not coeve, thus a franken
- warranty: probably a blank one retrieved somewhere and badly fullfilled
- boxes: fake

is the analisys correct?

It is to me.


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can someone give me an idea of the value (money) of a thing like this?


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somewher around the $800 - $1100ish depending how much you like the colour combo but its a normal early chronomat and its not rare in the slightest

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mmhh
I already won the auction but still not payed. What do you suggest to do?


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Post a link to the auction.


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http://www.ebay.it/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... 0691573326


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You didn't offer excessively much for it, so if you like the watch and don't care for the fake box and probably shady papers, pay for it.


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two aspects: one commercial and the other by the amatour point of view.
Commercial: it's 1200$ against the 950$ in average that was said.
Amatour point of view: I actually like the watch, but then... I don't know: there is that little voice inside that says "see that box? it's a faaaake; see that papers? It's a faaaake; ha ha ha!!!" and laughs of me....


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Watch is not a fake.
If you are bothered with some part's year inconsistency, don't pay for it.


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well, it's not a fake but also it's not a watch you would have found in a store...

anyone else opinion/ideas?


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There is no evidence that the watch isn't exactly as it came from Breitling - many, many examples like this. You paid a bit too much but that's not a good enough reason not to honour the deal that you agreed to in my mind.


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Roffensian wrote:
There is no evidence that the watch isn't exactly as it came from Breitling - many, many examples like this. You paid a bit too much but that's not a good enough reason not to honour the deal that you agreed to in my mind.

First of all: I'm not pointing my finger against anyone, if it looks like this pardon me, it's not my intention, just my bad english. I appreciate very much your help.

So, what you said is bit differed from what was said before (if I translated right).

It has been said that this probably is a b13050 to which has been replaced the dial with one's from a b13048.
Now you're saying that it is an original coeve watch, and in some occasion.
I started this thread exactly to investigate on this, as for example the year 2010 sounded strange to me, but not having the knowledge I decided to ask here.

If it comes out that this is all original I will honor the deal as I always do (take a look to my feedbacks), but, at the moment, this originality seem to be all to be demonstrated.

Said that:
- watch: all original but not coeve, thus a franken
- warranty: probably a blank one retrieved somewhere and badly fullfilled
- boxes: fake

and, if you translate seller's desccription, that was not declared, it was declared exactly the opposite they guarantee full originality.

So, what would you do in my shoes?


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There are a number of 13048 / 13050 combinations - we have seen several here before, and they are perfectly real. We don't know the history behind them but there is no evidence that they are anything but original Breitling.


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rik wrote:
Now you're saying that it is an original coeve watch, and in some occasion.

I already told you that it might be.

rik wrote:
If it comes out that this is all original

Parts are original, you'll never know was it like this when it left the factory.


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sorry. but what do you mean by "coeve" ?
my gut reaction when I saw the watch was "real", in line with many I have seen.
documents and boxes are wrong, but the watch itself seems quite ok,

also remember that a watch you buy in the US for $1,000 will end up around
€1,000 when you receive it, after shipping and VAT, so even the price seems
quite fair.


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