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Venus 191, 14 ligne, but VERY strange bridge engraving ?

Thanks, I meant from the outside:)..for example by looking at those small pushers on the left. So considering going by the movements, here the v191, how do we tell is not a v72/v72c?

Also those small pushers on the left side of the case seem to be pushing out a bit too much? The other 785's have seen have them nicely tucked in.

sorry, looks Greek to me:), can't see the difference!

@ Cruvon
Ive seen the difference in little pushers as well, still trying to figure it out if it has anything to do with the movement or not
and look closely at both movements , you'll see the differences it took me awhile as well

most noticable , lower left hand side from the column wheel are different parts that are quite distinguishable

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@Dracha, that's a tough one guessing, oky here's a movement shot of the 1946 785 v72c besides a shot of a supposed Venus 191

here

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upper: Venus191
lower: Valjoux VZ family

edit: in cruvon original post, upside down in Drachas.

just different movements, size 13/14 ligne so one w/ "metal" ring around movement, the other not, etc. put them side by side and compare, cruvon ?

the pusher thing MIGHT be a difference noticable from the front as they seem to be standing out more, could be the use of the same pushers on a larger movement, but would need somebody competent to comment and chronodeco is sailing ....

we have taken that bridge engravings thread quite far off topic.

Edit: rene, just saw the pics u posted, you are a little too nice sometimes ......

@Rene: Thanks, I wouldn't have guessed that one that easily:), so to summarize, the V72 has a pistol like thing there(won't forget now).
@Fred: Thanks, btw why does the Valjoux require the metal ring and the other not? The pusher is definitely out in the steel one, the gold 785 has it tucked in.

cruvon: the Venus is 14 ligne, i.e. larger than the Valjoux. so to fit in the same case the smaller one gets a thicker movement holder ?
similar to the V72 and V178 on the 806 ?

@ Fred: Thanks. Also what are those bullet like projectiles on the gold wheel? I see them on the silver and the other gold watch but not in this gold v72 posted above.

Oky, back to the engravings, note that both these gold 785's are serial 644X, yet one has a engraving and the other doesn't! Also one has a gold ring, the other a reddish one?

"bullet like projectiles" ???? what. where. which wheel ?

Marked inside the blue band here on two, none on the first one.

the projectiles are balance wheel screws, you do not see them on the gold one as this pic shows a running movement and they are blurred by the motion, balance wheel on this is levitating as it has no spokes either ?

most contemporary watches do not have these screws that were necessary for temp regulations if I understand that correctly, as modern alloys do not require this, but vintage watches all have them, hope Roff will chime in as I know very little on this subject, but there are still no levitating balance wheels (well maybe there is one in the Haldimann H9).