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"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"

The oldest debate fallacies in the book - try to impeach credibility and then challenge the opponent to prove a negative. Really? That's all you have?

Every member on this site knows all Breitling movements except the 01 and 04 are not in house. So I don't get your post in the slightest.

Nor was I a "Facillitator" before this long dormant thread was resurrected.

The fact remains that Breitling uses ebauches and starts from there. We here on this forum are not so naive to think that is the stuff of which in house movements are made. Nor are we so gullible as to believe Geneve stripes or perlage mean or prove anything, especially some silly conspiracy theory. Perhaps you are confusing us with some other community.


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SHARKMAN

One final note - there is a difference between a movement and an ebauche. Breitling uses ebauches which do NOT include rotors! Ask Swatch. This is really elementary stuff and you seem to be confusing fully assembled movements with the bare guts of an ebauche which is NOT a full movement kit.

Moving on...


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SHARKMAN

This advances your argument...how?

I don't know anything about this stuff, myself, and was willing to read both sides and consider, but this attitude has alienated me. I find that venting is generally a distraction from any argument presented.

Thread has been dead for months, have to wonder what the agenda is now to resurrect it.

Swatch group announced more than a decade ago that anyone who wanted a modified ETA movement going forward would have to commission ETA to make the modifications for them. After years and years of legal wrangles that's now occurring and has been the single biggest driver behind so many companies (Breitling included) developing in house movements.

If the claim that these companies were doing nothing were true as alleged, why would they care if that became the business model?

Are we really supposed to believe that Breitling bought Kelek, hires and trains watchmakers, commissions 3rd party parts suppliers, invests in CNC machines, etc, etc, etc for simple smoke and mirrors?

Exactly! Breitling loaded up on Swatch ebauches to continue the current models while spending untold millions to develop the manufacturing capabilities for true in house movements. IWC made a decision to allow Swatch to make fully assembled movements to their specs for the non in house models.

By the way, I called a guy who told me a guy who knows told him it was really a young Leon Breitling who shot Lincoln. Prove that's false.


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SHARKMAN

I know that guy. In his deposition, he said it was another guy by the same name, and that's not what the other guy said he told him.

You mean about the guy? The guy with the thing?


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SHARKMAN

No, not him. The guy wid the udder t'ing.