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Way, way too many reported problems with these in house movements. I know that the issues aren't unique to them, and any mechanical watch can have trouble, but there do seem to be some inherent issues still to resolve.

Sorry about the problems Mark, and hope that you are happy with the Rolex.

I always think people tend to over react. If the in-house movement has some issues you'll find the ETA based movements also have them, probably people simply don't report it as much or don't kick a fuss as much as they do about the 01 movement.

It's a mechanical movement, in a large production line there're always be a low percentage that need to go back for adjusting or repairs.

To know if the 01 movement is flawed or prone to breakages above average you would need to compare; the percentage of new ETA based movements that go back to Breitling for warranty work with the percentage of new 01 movements that also go back. Maybe you would be surprised.

A good friend of mine bought his Rolex GMTIIc and had nothing but problems. Eventually Rolex got it repaired and he's happy with the watch now as far as I'm concerned. I've heard of Rolex movements going strong for over 20 years without service - this one broke in less than a year.

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Collection
GMTIIc
Daytona
Nautilus 5711
Deep Sea D-Blue
Submariner Hulk
Tudor BB - FOR SALE
SOLD
Aerospace
Navitimer World
Bentley GT Racing
Cockpit
Navitimer 01 LE 788/2000

Hmmmmm? None of my other watches have ever been sent back to the manufacturer. I think a 8k watch should be trouble free. Just my thoughts.

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Rolex 42mm Explorer
IWC Ingenieur

A few others too.

Yes it should be! But it isn't uncommon for new movements to have bugs. Rolex has had many moons to iron out the kinks in their basic movements. Omega had notorious issues with the 33XX (??) movement in the Speedmaster that Chuck Maddox wrote so much about. But that was more a repeatable issue Omega had a heck of a time resolving. Some say they never did. Some say the criticism was over-hyped.

However (!!!!) something goes wrong with my 01 and l'll be mad as hell. I've fallen hard for this one.

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SHARKMAN

While 2000 is not exactly LIMITED, it's by no means a LARGE production line. The number of Navi 01 buyers on here who have had problems is a bit shocking. Who are you to say people are overreacting? When you over spend for an 01 you should expect it to run flawlessly for at least 5 years. I gotta agree with Roff and Mah on this one.

Well, I was talking in terms of global yearly production, not in terms of the ETA based movements that you personally own versus B01s, if that makes sense.

I agree and I understand your frustration, an 8k watch should be trouble free. Sure. Their price tag doesn't make it less likely to fall in the low percentage that need to go back, unfortunately.

As another member has pointed out, ask for the movement to be replaced. I think that's the best they could do to remove the issue completely.

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Collection
GMTIIc
Daytona
Nautilus 5711
Deep Sea D-Blue
Submariner Hulk
Tudor BB - FOR SALE
SOLD
Aerospace
Navitimer World
Bentley GT Racing
Cockpit
Navitimer 01 LE 788/2000

What I mean is that people tend to shout more about a product newly released when there are issues. This doesn't happen only to watches, it's common in all commercial products with a high degree of attention from consumers, and the new in-house movement has that attention right now.

Anyway, I believe more than 2000 pieces are housing that movement. wouldn't you agree? the movement isn't limited to the Navitimer 01 LE.

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Collection
GMTIIc
Daytona
Nautilus 5711
Deep Sea D-Blue
Submariner Hulk
Tudor BB - FOR SALE
SOLD
Aerospace
Navitimer World
Bentley GT Racing
Cockpit
Navitimer 01 LE 788/2000

Mah
I'm sorry to read all the issues you've been having with your Navi 01. I've been running a whole bunch of tests on my TO for the last month. So far all functions: chrono, COSC specs, power reserve, subdial behavior are all as advertised. The only deviation so far is the centering of the second hand after chrono use. It is about 1/10th of a second to the right of dead center. Fixable I'm sure but it does not currently bother me. I'll wait and see if anything else develops prior to my 1 year warranty ending.

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Brez

Aerospace
Airwolf CF-18 Limited Edition
TrancOcean Chronograph LE (mercury silver dial, brown croc, folding clasp)

I've had severe issues with my Chronomat 01. On it's 4th trip back to BUSA, they finally replaced the movement. They actually wanted to replace the entire head, but as my wife engraved the case back, I couldn't let them do that. BUSA definitely doesn't default to putting in a new movement. In any case, this new movement has a different issue, but still chronograph related. The minute counter will sometimes jump to the one minute mark when the chrono is initiated. I'm HIGHLY irritated by this, but I absolutely adore the watch. The fact that my wife bought it for me doesn't help my cause either.

I'm convinced there is definitely something not quite right with the B01 movement. Given all my issues, and also the issues of others in this forum, I have to believe the data would be statistically significant if we were able to obtain it. So far, my Navi 01 seems to be doing alright, but I'm watching it very closely. I'm sorry to hear you decided to part with yours (and for a Rolex!), but I can totally understand your decision . . . to part with the Navi, not to buy a Rolex. Just kidding . . . sort of.

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Chronomat 01- Sierra Silver/Steel
Navitimer 01- Limited Edition #1337/2000