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Dr_Jennings
 Post subject: Breitling 177
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:00 pm 
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Gentlemen,

What is your opinion about this watch ?
It is moved with a venus 170.

Thx for your help


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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Looks like a Breitling ref 178. The hands aren't probably original. Need to see a shot of the back cover since it should have a serial number and reference number on it.
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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No serial number outside the caseback.
A reference 177 is badly engraved ... but crown, dial and movement look ok.
Just add a pic of the caseback.

Does it sound possible to you it's original or is it a 18k fake ???
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Dr_Jennings wrote:
No serial number outside the caseback.
A reference 177 is badly engraved ... but crown, dial and movement look ok.
Just add a pic of the caseback.

Does it sound possible to you it's original or is it a 18k fake ???


There should be a serial number inside the caseback or on the outside of the caseback. It's not genuine for this style watch without it. That 177 is a number I don't remember seeing before and the quality of the engraving is poor. I think that's enough to stay away from this one if you're considering it.
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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on one hand I agree with you but on the other I feel something curious ... how could it be a fake ?
I asked a pic of the inside of the caseback to the vendor
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Don't like this at all.

That 177 is not from the Breitling factory, and is not a correct reference that I've ever come across, and I don't like the movement ring either. Date looks way too new to be original as well.
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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And furthermore it is a double case back :(
I'm not considering it anymore.

Thx gentlemen for your help
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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clearly fake
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Supermoto wrote:
Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated



The movement looks OK on this one - but look at the caseback and in particular the way that 177 is engraved.
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Roffensian wrote:
Supermoto wrote:
Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated



The movement looks OK on this one - but look at the caseback and in particular the way that 177 is engraved.


I see what you mean with the engraving it is poor, still, it is a nice looker, would there have been a B on the crown or am I waffling on
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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Supermoto wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
Supermoto wrote:
Would it be possible for any of you learned fellows to cut and paste the movement photo and insert text boxes showing the non original parts you can see. I am very much a newbie but find the workings of movements really interesting.

Oh and a belated hello to all you chaps from Phil, I forgot to introduce myself which was rude of me, your input and knowledge in helping with my watch is much appreciated



The movement looks OK on this one - but look at the caseback and in particular the way that 177 is engraved.


I see what you mean with the engraving it is poor, still, it is a nice looker, would there have been a B on the crown or am I waffling on


I think this early of a piece if it was Breitling wouldn't have a B on the crown... Had a 46-47 Premier which I regret letting go by the way :cry: and it was unsigned... this looks perhaps from a similar era.

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 Post subject: Re: Breitling 177
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Would the crown of a non existent Breitling model have had a B?

Hmmm, need to think about that one - kinda like if a crown fell in a fake wood sort of thing :lol: :wink:
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