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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 7:42 pm 
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Since this has clearly become a bash Rolex thread; then bash the opposition thread; I decided to add my two cents. Rolex makes the most well know "nice" watch. Rolex now has a bezel and bracelet that matches its design. Many of us decided to buy a Breitling (or some other brand Omega, Panerai, etc) because we decided it was more important to purchase a watch that had more "value" than a Rolex or we did not want the same "treatment" that wearing a Rolex brings. I personally prefer my Breitling watches because most people do not know that Breitling is a really nice watch. Even though a SubC is a great looking watch, it would not "look good" in my field to wear a Rolex.

In short, I buy / wear watches that are suitable for me. I think the new Rolex is a great looking watch. Do I think it is worth the premium? I don't think any of them are. Will a Rolex hold its value over time vs a competitior's? Of course it will. Will I be able to wear a Rolex during my work? Of course I couldn't.

In the end, for me, the value of a watch I "may" sell is not as important as the value of a watch I "will" keep.

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And we wonder why it's so hard for peace in the middle east. :wink:

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And we wonder why it's so hard for peace in the middle east. :wink:


You said it habibi!

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I forgot the original point of this thread, oh yeah, it had something to do with the price of used Rolexes compared to other brands, right? It's really the SS sport models that demand such a high price on the used market and the main reason is desirability. Everyone knows them, sees them and thinks they're the greatest thing ever. Of course as WIS(es?) we know that there are better more desirable watches out there but I don't think that's a reason to hate Rolex. They did what we want a watchmaker to do, they made some great looking watches that can be worn in any situation, from the beach to the boardroom, that are very accurate and durable with a resale value that would make Harley Davidson proud.

People that say that they hate them because of what's on their dial, Rolex name/logo, are just as bad in my opinion as people who think they're the greatest thing since sliced bread for that very same reason.

And no, I don't own one and I probably will not for a while, as much as I respect the company and love some of their models, the EXPII, SubC & GMTIIC, there are other watches that I'd rather own first.

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I forgot the original point of this thread, oh yeah, it had something to do with the price of used Rolexes compared to other brands, right?



And more accurately why a watch that costs (maybe) $1,000 to produce and sells for 3 or 4 times that resale is better value than a watch that costs (maybe) $1,500 to produce and sells for 4 or 5 times that resale.

Let's face it, value for any vaguely high end watch is a pretty ludicrous concept. It all comes down (as Sharkman has said repeatedly) to supply and demand. Rolex has done a much better job than anyone in creating demand for their pieces and that drives the prices - despite huge supply volumes.


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And they restrict the discounting, you can get 30% off a Breitling but 15% if you're lucky on a Rolex; that helps to keep resale values higher.

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The Rolex "Sawtooth Submariner" [Modified Reference 5513] that Roger Moore wore in the 1973 James Bond movie titled Live and Let Die just sold for $198,00 at Christies Auction House.
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Yes but only because it was wore by Roger Moore not because it is a Rolex.;-)

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Yes but only because it was wore by Roger Moore not because it is a Rolex.;-)

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True :D but it just shows Rolex has a certain "cult history" that is hard to follow. Even if you hate them you
gotta give them 10/10 for marketing even in the days the word marketing was non-existent.

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Ok, we ALL started out hating Rolex because of what we THOUGHT they were all about, that they were over-priced, and only superficial know nothing's bought them. That was the common theme on this site. But then Rolex made some changes on the sport models and a funny thing happened on the way to the HateFest -members of this site began to venture into the Rolex lair and a bunch of folks who hated Rolex for what they believed they represented bought one despite the negative preconceived feelings. And in so doing found they just loved the timepiece they selected.

This was the forums mantra when I joined - "we hate Rolex, we hate Rolex!" I was one of that ilk. It says something about the refined sport models at least that haters with considerable watch knowledge and collections suddenly became believers. Hell even FEAR drank the Kool-Aid!!!!

This was never a Rolex Fan Boy site. Just the opposite. It was the same with Panerai, a brand that I tried and ultimately rejected.

What I saw happening was many members setting aside their long held disdain for Rolex and giving it a try. And the positive reaction was considerable. Sure most Rolex buyers haven't a clue about watches and the other fine watch brands coveted by so many here. But almost to the man every Rolex owning member here does know about fine watches and most by actual owning experience. And for me at least, that says a lot about the quality, fit and to finish of the Rolex sport models.

If I have never eaten fish and I tell you I hate salmon, my opinion means nothing. If I eat fish, have never tried salmon, and tell you the appearance and smell lead me to believe it is over-priced, my opinion means very little. If I have only eaten salmon and tell you it's the best fish in the world, my opinion means next to nothing. But if I regularly eat all varieties of fish, believe salmon sucks, then break down and try it and love it, my opinion means quite a bit.

But what do I know? I hate salmon.

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Yes but only because it was wore by Roger Moore not because it is a Rolex.;-)

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Even if you hate them you
gotta give them 10/10 for marketing even in the days the word marketing was non-existent.


I fully agree with you on this one but that won't make me like Rolex more.


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Budlum24 wrote:

The innovation of the SubC is little to none. .


This is basically one of the reasons why Rolex is less appealing to the new younger generation! Based on my own experience, Rolex watches only look great in pictures. Once you wear it on the wrist, its puny! Size wise its just too small. Rolex really needs to address the new younger generation watch lovers who prefers bigger more masculine modern looking watches.

Rolex is too deep rooted in its tradition and this refusal to adapt to a changing world is what alienate modern watch lovers from Rolex. Doesn't have to be that way!


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ShawnCris wrote:
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The innovation of the SubC is little to none. .


This is basically one of the reasons why Rolex is less appealing to the new younger generation! Based on my own experience, Rolex watches only look great in pictures. Once you wear it on the wrist, its puny! Size wise its just too small. Rolex really needs to address the new younger generation watch lovers who prefers bigger more masculine modern looking watches.

Rolex is too deep rooted in its tradition and this refusal to adapt to a changing world is what alienate modern watch lovers from Rolex. Doesn't have to be that way!



Well there IS the DSSD.

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mfserge wrote:

Dude I've had 17 Breitlings and only 4 Rolex, I'm a Breitling fan so chill the &$?! Out.



Actually :poke: , I used to be a loyal Rolex guy myself and owned more than 10 of them over years but that was before I discovered that Breitling was actually the better watch! In fact, I was also one of the earliest more active members of the Rolex forum but then really got fully converted to Breitling. I got rid of all Rolex watches with the exception of one which holds a sentimental value but which I no longer wear. It's all Breitling for me now and I have no regrets!!! :cheer: :lingsrock:


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ShawnCris wrote:
Budlum24 wrote:

The innovation of the SubC is little to none. .


This is basically one of the reasons why Rolex is less appealing to the new younger generation! Based on my own experience, Rolex watches only look great in pictures. Once you wear it on the wrist, its puny! Size wise its just too small. Rolex really needs to address the new younger generation watch lovers who prefers bigger more masculine modern looking watches.

Rolex is too deep rooted in its tradition and this refusal to adapt to a changing world is what alienate modern watch lovers from Rolex. Doesn't have to be that way!


Oddly enough, one of my favorite things about the SubC is the 40mm size and reasonable thickness. As many of the owners here at BSource have said, the size just works all of the time.

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