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RJRJRJ wrote:
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So now we know :-)
Thanks JacksonStone for that technical info.


3000m is just a static rating. Without this type of rating, there would be far too many variables (movement, temperature etc.) to ever accurately indicate how a watch would perform in a real situation. A 3000m watch will not actually go to 3000m, just as a 100m watch wont actually go to 100m. You might reach that 100m of static pressure at 20-30m of real world diving.



Although with the new ISO ratings the watch companies are going to have to move to real world numbers rather than static (unrealistic) pressure claims.


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Again, thanks to all for your input. All very interesting :-)


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RJRJRJ wrote:
3000m is just a static rating. Without this type of rating, there would be far too many variables (movement, temperature etc.) to ever accurately indicate how a watch would perform in a real situation. A 3000m watch will not actually go to 3000m, just as a 100m watch wont actually go to 100m. You might reach that 100m of static pressure at 20-30m of real world diving.

That said (and I did say that, too, in so many words), is there any possible real-world situation where a person would subject a watch to the equivalent of 3900m of static pressure? If so, what are the odds the average DSSD owner would be in such a situation?


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Roffensian wrote:
RJRJRJ wrote:
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So now we know :-)
Thanks JacksonStone for that technical info.


3000m is just a static rating. Without this type of rating, there would be far too many variables (movement, temperature etc.) to ever accurately indicate how a watch would perform in a real situation. A 3000m watch will not actually go to 3000m, just as a 100m watch wont actually go to 100m. You might reach that 100m of static pressure at 20-30m of real world diving.



Although with the new ISO ratings the watch companies are going to have to move to real world numbers rather than static (unrealistic) pressure claims.

True but it does depend on which ISO they are going to use. If it's ISO 2281 (which it will be for all mass producers) then it's not a whole lot more "real world" that the standard WR rating - certainly a bit more real, but not a guarantee of water resistance to the stated depth for any length of time. However, if it's the ISO 6425 Diver's watch rating, then that really is a real world rating. To be rated under ISO 6425 every single watch in a batch is tested, not just a sample...... which makes it very expensive for volume manufacturers. Plus they are tested in water to 125% of the rating. i.e. if it's going to be rated to 400m it will actually be tested to 500m. It's a very rigorous test and only watches that ISO 6425 can have the designation "Diver's Watch" on the case back. That wording means you really can trust a watch to operate at the stated depth.

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So there may be interesting developments in the WR ratings in the future.


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Being a diver myself I can tell you, if I ever find myself 3000 metres deep and I'm still concious (very unlikely) the last thing I'll be worrying about is my watch :D

Anything deeper 60 metres is beyond recreational purposes and becomes far more technical. There's no point on going beyond 60 either. The best stuff diving can be seen between 10 and 30 metres anyway.


personally i enjoy the kiddie pool no more that 3 foot deep water for me.


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Roffensian wrote:
There is no Breitling waterproof to 3,000m.l


And what about the Seawolf Roff?


EDIT: reacted too quickly, didn't see your next post!

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The 3000m/10000ft on the dial of the SeaWolf is one of the main reasons I bought it. That's just crazy to think about and a very cool piece of engineering. ...and fun to talk about to those that ask about the watch.

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ricardo wrote:
3000m water resistancy rating might well be irrelevant but who can deny that it is also very cool.

Let's be honest. Any timepiece with a price tag over £50 is fairly irrelevant.

The SeaWolf is an amazing piece of engineering in my opinion.

Please read my review for further waxing of lyricals about this superb timepiece.

http://www.andrewmichaels.co.uk/blog/br ... my-review/


I agree, marketing gimmick or not it's great that companies are willing to spend money developing over engineered and utterly impractical things, just to show that they can.

Of course there is a habit of the consumer to just buy based upon big numbers and ignore many other factors that together complete something, but the world would be a pretty boring place if watches (and any other products, especially luxury goods) were never built for any more than the average punter is going to need on a daily basis. :)


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