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I am not attempting to reach the average watch person. Only the guy who has them all - I would suspect he doesn't have a defective one from '53 - you would agree?? Raising questions or doubts is the name of the game when selling something, especially something apparently unique?? Day 1 stuff guy.

Forgot to remind you, I can do what I like with my property and sell it however I like - You don't like it, avert your eyes - the unique and unusual are blinding your objectivity. My opinion.

you get awfully defensive when you dont like an answer to a question you asked
you asked for a price estimate and I gave you one, if you dont like it than thats your issue , not mine
goodbye

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"I spent most of my money on Booze, Breitling and Boats. The rest I wasted" - mostly Elmore Leonard

I sent this watch for maintenance having no idea AT ALL about it. After the estimate was returned around $1100, my wife almost keeled over! Still I was able to convince her simply on the basis that this was my grandpas watch. At that time I did not intend on selling it, and at this point I don't know if I will - it has caused such a fuss, it will be a conversation piece for eternity on the subject of watches/chronographs AND in 2053 when it will be 100 years old, when I am dead and gone, someone will be able to CASH IN bigtime if he/she would like or continue the conversation regarding it. After almost a year investigating 'this watch', I am an expert on this one - Period. I put it up for sale at first for $5000. No one bid. So I researched further and found more rarity so I raised the selling price - probably 4 or 5 times now. The self proclaimed Breitling experts here have ALL agreed collectively without provication, without knowing the true facts or what anyone else was about to write about it and all 'known' information about this time period has been verified. EVERYTHING! Just because I made a grammatic error quoting some precious statement that you yourselves have made - now you are second guessing yourselves due to hurt feelings? I almost can't believe this. Stick to one side of the fence or the other, or change your minds if you like, but make your decisions with unclouded minds and without malicious intent. If anyone wants to 'Demand a Commission' then buy the watch and you can do whatever you like with it - my thoughts anyways. Is this beginning to make sense now? Ha. Ya, we're still friends as far as I am concerned -
I myself realize this is only a mechanical marvel and a 'collosal screwup' from a manufacturing standpoint. By the way, has anyone been this interested in a Breitling watch story before? If so, let's hear about it.

HOW CAN YOU PRICE REFERENCE SOMETHING YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT?? FIND ME ANOTHER IDENTICAL WATCH AND I WILL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER USING IT AS A REFERENCE. how many time must I repeat this?

try this :

My Opinion: As your watch was NOT assembled by Breitling in this fashion but put together from different parts and it is now considerend a "Frankenwatch" , build together from assorted other watches. This is the reason why you will not find another watch 'just like it' as it wasnt made by Breitling

Others have tried to play this came , trying to make out their watch was the only one in the world asking f*king ridiculous prices but they're still trying to make any money off of those watches

I firmly believe the watch you have once was a beautifull AVI with a digital 15 minute counter but sadly enough it was canabilized along the way decimating value

and shouting never increased credibility

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"I spent most of my money on Booze, Breitling and Boats. The rest I wasted" - mostly Elmore Leonard

You are certainly afforded the right to express your opinions as you see fit. The intellegent persons will read and investigate for themselves. Do we need therapy? 'Now' I am shouting! HA! Credibility does not enter into 'any system' when nobody knows the facts - I don't know you, are YOU credible? Right, nobody knows - duh. If you want to cuss at me at least lower your dress some. The term Frankenwatch is supposed to frighten me? I am tougher than that (and I don't believe in monsters anymore). It is human nature to chastize (sp) or burn at the stake the unknown in an attempt to rationalize what you can't rap your head around, I understand. You have once again shown you ignorance by adding cuss-words in a dicussion about a WATCH man - and it isn't even yours. AMAZING - So much fun. By the way, how many watch people are aware of this one by now - how better to sell something? Not sure if you and I are still friends, but it doesn't Hurt My Feelings any -sorry.

me thinks it is time to quit feeding the trolls.

I'm still not seeing the issue with the bezel alignment. Do you have an image that displays what that is. I think I'm looking for a straight-on image that has the triangle directly over the "60". Does that show the mis-alignment you're referring to?

Bill,
I believe the seller refers to the fact that the triangle doesnt 'click' directly over the '60' , but rather clicks either just to the left , or just to the right of the '60'

Some possible causes might be
-: Incorrect bezel for the case
-: Incorrect spring for the bezel
-: worn bezel or case

and maybe some other causes

to me that just adds to my hypothesis that this watch was build together from parts , or someone made it just 'functional again' after some mishap to the watch

but lets wait for some pics

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"I spent most of my money on Booze, Breitling and Boats. The rest I wasted" - mostly Elmore Leonard

Thanks for the reply, Rene. I was being a dope.

I got mine out and I see what you mean. I'm inclined to think that the case and bezel are original and a replacement dial and maybe work to the movement has the dial mis-aligned, not the bezel. I notice that the original version AVI that Allan/Altro shows in his Watchuseek article also shows a bit of that problem. But, it's difficult to make this judgment from just images.

Yes, see http://www.breitling1953.com for the pictures if you like.

Hello, my photos of the watch and supporting documents from Horological Services have been removed from this discussion. I am not too surprised. Disappointed that it took some quotes to ruffle the feathers here on the site.
I apologize to anyone who thinks I have crossed the line with my editorial comments although the facts have not changed with regards to this Breitling. I think if we can say we agree that Mr. Heist at Horological Services is knowledgeable on these timepieces then the defect is confirmed for me at least. He has said that they have seen this defect in many of the early AVI's. Also as I have said, I have seen another online like this- by the way, the minutes and hour dial hands are the same as mine ('53).
I agree to finish with the 'trolls' or drolls (in this context I add myself) as it were and if anyone wants to discuss this further (?) I will keep my comments more professional. Otherwise everyone take care. If they permit listing the site here it is http://www.breitling1953.com
I would be appreciative. Otherwise search the net for 1953 Breitling AVI's and I am sure anyone with some computer savy will find it. You know by now that I don't have any computer skills whatsoever really.
Again, my appologies. (not joking)

I hope that you are not suggesting that the moderation team has edited those posts. That is categorically not true and I can post screenshots of the moderator logs to prove it.

I have no idea what you are talking about. All I know is that the pictures of my watch and the Horological Services photos are gone now and I did not remove them. They have been replaced with 'the image has been deleted and is no longer available'. Maybe you can tell me what happened to them? Why would I have deleted them - they were the best part of these debates. I of course am not suggesting anything, the pictures were there and now they are not.