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 Post subject: Bracelet help.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:47 pm 
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So I took the bracelet off my steelfish and had it on a DPII for the past few days. I have been trying to put the bracelet back on and I am having one hell of a hard time. Taking it off was easy, but putting it back is proving to be quite a pain in the ass.

Can anyone offer some advice?

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Second time I've linked to this in the last week......

I explained what I do in this thread - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28658&p=212942


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:31 pm 
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Thanks for the link Roff, but I am looking for advice to put it back on. Taking it off was a breeze.

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Beyond Man wrote:
Thanks for the link Roff, but I am looking for advice to put it back on. Taking it off was a breeze.



That's what I was implying - although the link didn't seem to work.....

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=28658&p=212942

Just do that in reverse.

As long as the bracelet edges are between the lugs on both sides before the first spring bar is in the hole you should be fine.


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HI are you using the pin made for bracelet or straps model as they are different

as the 2 different are made special to make attach easy on the braselet ore safer attach on straps they are best used on the thing it was design for.

The pin made for straps are flat in the top like this one from my strap
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And the pin made for bracelet are pointy tip sorry no pic yet

Breitling provide 2 different pins and the reason is
That make attach of bracelet easier
And on the other hand make strap attach safer as straps can move from side a fraction

Regards Jonas straka

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jojo.806 wrote:
HI are you using the pin made for bracelet or straps model as they are different

as the 2 different are made special to make attach easy on the braselet ore safer attach on straps they are best used on the thing it was design for.

The pin made for straps are flat in the top like this one from my strap
Image

And the pin made for bracelet are pointy tip sorry no pic yet

Breitling provide 2 different pins and the reason is
That make attach of bracelet easier
And on the other hand make strap attach safer as straps can move from side a fraction

Regards Jonas straka

Hi, Jonas. Pics in this 5 year old "Articles" post... :wink:
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Swapping straps & bracelets...
is a great way to increase enjoyment of your Breitling watch. The following information will hopefully encourage the reader to try the procedure for him/herself... :-!

These are original Breitling strap and bracelet springbars. Sorry for the lack of detail but if you look close you can see a conical point on the bracelet springbar. This is to help guide it into the inner interhorn holes while CAREFULLY attaching the bracelet. Notice it also has a chamfered shoulder on the outside diameter of the barrel. This is to help position the springbar tool (Please do NOT use a small screwdriver as a springbar tool unless you like scratches and gouges on the case and interhorns.) onto the springbar shaft for insertion into the interhorn hole. (Note: the Bergeon 6111 has removable tips for both types of springbars and is the perfect tool IMO. Link to a source is here: http://lonestarwatches.com/accessories.htm? ) The strap springbar doesn't need this chamfered shoulder because the springbar tool bit is more of a notched "shovel" as opposed to a sharp "fork" for the bracelet springbar tool bit. You can use the bracelet springbar for strap attachment but it is unwise to use strap springbars for bracelet installation because of the likelihood of slippage and scratching. Please don't trust a jeweler or anyone who does'nt know the difference between springbars. EDIT: Recent information shows the part number to be 520.XX for the strap springbar and part number 520.XX.1 for the bracelet springbar. The ""XX" is the interhorn width (22=22mm such as on the standard Navitimer). I hope this helps clear up some confusion for those of you who would like to swap between straps and bracelets. Two or more watches for the price of one! :-) To illustrate the difference...


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Every Breitling wtih its original bracelet has the springbars as shown on the right in those two pics. Every strap I have (7 at this time and 7 bracelets as well) has the springbars illustrated on the left. In addition to all of the 22mm springbars I have I also have packages of 15mm, 16mm, and 18mm springbars for my family's Breitlings. All of them are exactly the same for bracelet and exactly the same for strap. Their watches all were originally equipped with "Pilot" bracelets and all configurations concurr when straps were ordered and/or added. I have a Breitling Authorized Service center here which will corroborate this information because that is where I received and validated it. That is also where I was shown how to properly adjust a Breitling bracelet by "biasing" the links to the North side of the watch which ergonomically balances the deployant clasp correctly. Here are examples of correctly balanced Navitimer and Fighter bracelets...

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Hope this helps! :-)
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Thanks Mr Ron

I think this is the best guide regarding spring bars
Did not kow if I was allowed to refer to it

Tanks for posting it regards Jonas straka.

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Beyond Man, make sure one end of the the spring bar is not protruding from the end link. Set the end link so the end is against the case edge between the lugs. The side of the end link with the spring bar not showing will sit down a bit into the interhorn area. The other side will have the spring bar resting on the back side of one lug. Hold the end link in that position with your thumb - I apply pressure downward and inward with my free thumb. Use the 6767F tool to gentle compress the portion of the spring bar resting on the lug, keeping pressure on the end link with your thumb. Apply firm pressure but not too much - you just want to keep the end link in it's approx final position. Once the spring bar compresses enough and both sides of the end link are partially seated, I usually turn over the watch and carefully manipulate the end link (typically in and slightly up) until it is firmly against the case and the spring bars snap into place.

It takes some practice. Even then, sometimes I can set a bracelet in 15 seconds and sometimes the bracelet (or is it I?) just don't play well with others. Be patient.

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So some elbow grease, many curses, and a few inside lug scratches later I got it on!

That was a pain in the ass, but I think i figured it out for next time.

In regard to the two types of spring bars I definitely want to get a set of the flat end spring bars. When I had the DPII on, i pinched the strap to see if the bars were in the holes and when doing that the spring bar popped out. Def wont trust that when out in the water or on a boat.

BTW, when I had the strap and bracelet off I checked the stamp to see the date of production. It was the same month and year (0510) my nephew/god-son was born. I guess I have a pretty cool present to give him when he gets older..... :lingsrock:

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Beyond Man wrote:
So some elbow grease, many curses, and a few inside lug scratches later I got it on!

That was a pain in the ass, but I think i figured it out for next time.

In regard to the two types of spring bars I definitely want to get a set of the flat end spring bars. When I had the DPII on, i pinched the strap to see if the bars were in the holes and when doing that the spring bar popped out. Def wont trust that when out in the water or on a boat.

BTW, when I had the strap and bracelet off I checked the stamp to see the date of production. It was the same month and year (0510) my nephew/god-son was born. I guess I have a pretty cool present to give him when he gets older..... :lingsrock:



0510 means the 5th week of 2010. February, 2010. Look at the bright side - you get to keep the Fish forever!!!

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520.XX for the strap springbar and part number 520.XX.1 for the bracelet springbar. The ""XX" is the interhorn width (22=22mm such as on the standard Navitimer).



Very helpful. Though I confess I've never made any distinction myself. I have never noticed a problem and I give the strap a firm tug after attaching each end. Hmmmm.

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0510 means the 5th week of 2010. February, 2010. Look at the bright side - you get to keep the Fish forever!!!

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