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schroeder
PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:33 am 
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Is this genuine or is it a very good near perfect fake ? I real dont know.

http://cgi.ebay.de/Breitling-Vintage-19 ... 2c5dd77c6f
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:25 am 
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FHF 28 ? movement and caseback look ok.dial and handset don't, movement locking screws missing, probably from when the dial was re-done.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:45 am 
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movement locking screws missing,


I think that the movement had never this screws, because the back cover is screwed and hold the movement.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:49 am 
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The fact that it has a screw down case back doesn't preclude the need for the movement screws, the fact they are missing leads me to conclude that the movement has been removed at some time.
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This is a pointless debate.

The watch is a clear fake / franken watch. Whenever we have had such claims from people in the past it has been because Herbert Marz, one of his aliases, or one of his cronies has been trying to claim that it is some rare or undocumented piece.

It's why the longer term members are ignoring this thread.
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take a look in the ebay description:

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Mr. Frank J. Panarelli III has earned the title of Master Watchmaker and is authorized by Rolex, to service and repair all of their watches. Mr. Panarelli is an expert witness and been called upon to give testimony as to the genuine nature of Rolex Watches , by CSI Florida in what proved to be a massive counterfeit ring of not only Rolex Watches but a host of other high profile products and documents. Mr. Panarelli III, is a certified Florida Judiciary expert witness in the area of horology. He has given testimony in cases, both Civil and Criminal, that require his expertise.

Mr. Panarelli examined and serviced the watch being offered here and noted in his logs "Silver Dial Face," Breitling men's watch all original, circa 1953 with 17 jelwel manual wind movement. Watch I.D. Number 634815 (tells you production year) and case number 2904 29.
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 Post subject: I have an idea!
PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 5:05 am 
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Maybe we should call making up identities to trick people into buying fake watches a "Panarelli". Apparently there are degrees of Panarelli and Myrna is using a level three Panarelli to sell this watch made up in China.

Have you ever pulled a Panarelli? Bidding on your own auctions is already called a Herbert.
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Thank you all for your interesting informations.

Mr. Frank J. Panarelli III has earned the title of Master Watchfaker
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sorry, tried hard, but could not shut up, like I know I should.

a quick google search for Frank J. Panarelli will lead you to a chiropractic in Boynton Beach, Florida.
If you narrow it down to +"Frank J. Panarelli" +watchmaker, all you get is Myrna listing dubious watches with this strange "expert" or people in forums, making fun of it.

So I do second Bills suggestion:
"Doing a Herbert" for shill bidding
"to Panarelli a listing" for dubious Bull expertise about junk watches.

Dear "EnlightenedOne" (this is what this guy is calling himself in his own "forum" now, "derErleuchtete"), please leave us alone.
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