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Thanks for the tip!!

Thanks!!!

Another vote for the PO - but I have one so am biased. And I don't really like the SOH that much so an easy decision really


I'm with Roman, couldn't agree more! Good luck with your decision.

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Man, I've read some other forum threads on other sites with similar comparisons like the SUB vs the PO, etc.... and it seems to be overwhelmingly the same everytime......EVERYONE who has a PO seems to LOVE IT! The one's I've read aren't even comparable, it's usually like 80% of the people who are responding like the PO. I think I'm leaning towards that one. My only challenge is I really like a watch with a white face, the one I wear now most often is a white face. However, the more and more I see the PO the more I like it, and a black face seems to be a very popular color for that style of watch. In my opinion the PO, SUB, and Superocean are all the same style of watch with each watch makers own personal style, if that makes sense. None of which come with a white face.

If you really like the white dial and aren't opposed to a preowned watch check out the white dial steelfish. It's just a great watch and also the seawolf, it's big but it's pretty badass. I'd still pick the PO though.

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I like those, but I'll have to see them in person. I think the Seawolf is way too big for me. It's incredibly thick and I think the face has to be larger then 45mm, if I'm thinking about the right one. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm always open to them, so if anyone else has any feel to send them my way.

If you were asking for comparisons between the Sub and PO, I'd have voted for the Sub in a heartbeat. And I'd lay odds that you would have seen similar sentiment from others. Although the models are all similar in terms of basic function and design, there's still a world of difference between comparing the PO to the SOH and the PO to the Sub. Of course, you're looking at a 45mm PO, and the Sub is only 40mm, so it's not really an apples to apples comparison. Also, I guess I'll be the spoiler and say I'm not a huge fan of the standard PO. I really like the Liquidmetal LE version of the 42mm model, but the standard has always left me a little cold. It has more to do with the finishing than the watch itself - something about the matte dial and the look of the bezel, both of which are altered to my liking in the Liquidmetal version. I would actually go with a black SMP over the standard PO, although I would probably take the Liquidmetal PO over the SMP.

The PO and the Sub will always have more fans because the black dial is so versatile. But it sure sounds like you want a white dial. And that counts more than anything--the watch you want is one you will enjoy without regrets, that you'll look down at even when you don't need to know the time. Forget the rest of us, it's your watch.

There's not a whole lot of new white dials I can think of in your range. There's the recently discontinued Steelfish in white, but it's a little smaller (44mm) and chunkier than what you are considering. In pre-owned, Omega made a Seamaster Pro in white dial and a GMT in white dial, often referred to as the "Great White". Another thought, and this is harder to find, and available in white dial, is the Breitling Headwind. Similar body to an Evo, but it's a three dial watch which was not, to my understanding, the subject of a lot of replicas. Day-date setup like a Rolex President but just shy of 44 mm dial, and the same bracelet as the Evo. It was made in the early-mid 2000s and you have to be patient, but can get a good one for probably 2000-2500. There are a couple of white dials on the 'bay right now, one not very clean and the other with diamonds, a a blue one. At least you can check out the look.

End of the day, the good news about the PO is that I think they keep their value well. If you want to try one, you can and if you really miss a white dial, it should be a reasonably painless flip.

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Scott

AP Royal Oak 15400, silver
Zenith Chronomaster El Primero Classic Cars
Vintage gold Corum
Rolex DJ 36 TT, oyster dial, oyster/smooth
Baume & Mercier Riviera 200m, silver dial/aquamarine bezel
Breitling Superocean 57, rose/stainless

Thanks for your suggestion. I really like the steelfish a lot. I might hold off to see if I can find a nice used one. Does anyone have any idea how much they go for used? Thanks!

Do a search on Chrono24.com and see what they're going for.

Type "FS Steelfish" or some variation on the Google custom search at the top of this page. I can tell you from memory that several near-new (including my dear departed blue one) have sold for just under $2000 and older ones can go for less. A lot of bang for the buck on the Steelfish.

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Scott

AP Royal Oak 15400, silver
Zenith Chronomaster El Primero Classic Cars
Vintage gold Corum
Rolex DJ 36 TT, oyster dial, oyster/smooth
Baume & Mercier Riviera 200m, silver dial/aquamarine bezel
Breitling Superocean 57, rose/stainless

Jackson, have you ever seen the standard PO in person? Pictures don't do it justice. Also, if you just saw it at an AD you're not getting the full experience. It looks great in the out doors.

It's funny that you don't like the matte dial. It's one of my favorite features. The matte dial makes the polished applied hour markers and polished hands really pop and stand out. As a result it's one of the most easiest watches to tell time on. No matter what time or what condition- from really sunny to pitch black - I can readily see the time.

I love the ceramic bezel on the liquid metal but don't like the polished dial and the date cut out. It looks unfinished whereas the standard dial has a beveled date cut out.

I've been having a hard time putting the PO down the last few months. I'm forcing my self to give my other watches some wrist time though to be fair to them. Lol.

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Peter

BREITLING for Bentley Motors T & Mark VI, Aerospace
ROLEX Submariner Ceramic116610LN
OMEGA Plantet Ocean 8500 42mm Orange arabics
OCEAN7 LM-3

Try on the steelfish before you buy. I want to love it but it always leaves me a bit cold when I try one on. I'm not sure what it is. I think the dial may be a bit too small relative to the size of the watch.

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Peter

BREITLING for Bentley Motors T & Mark VI, Aerospace
ROLEX Submariner Ceramic116610LN
OMEGA Plantet Ocean 8500 42mm Orange arabics
OCEAN7 LM-3

Yeah, I've tried it on at an AD. I haven't had an opportunity to take it outside. As for the matte dial, I think it's the surface texture that bothers me. I'm fine with the fine-grain matte that is on some Chronomat Evos, and the Rolex Explorer, but that rougher grain on the PO just doesn't do it for me. I agree with you about the date cut-out on the ceramic dial, but it isn't a deal breaker for me.

Well, this is timely. I don't know why it didn't cross my radar until now, but thanks to a member of The Rolex Forums I just found out Omega is updating the SMP with essentially the same upgrades they put on last year's Liquidmetal PO: Liquidmetal bezel, lacquered dial (no waves), upgraded Bond bracelet with screws instead of pins, blue lume (except the minute hand and lume dot on the bezel, which are green), 2500 movement (possibly 2500D). Blue and black. Standard release, not limited edition. MSRP $4200.



I must admit, when I saw the pic, I got excited in an inappropriate way. The is the SMP I'd always wished Omega had made, and now they're going to.