The Breitling Watch Source Forums

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-BREITLING-SUPER ... 2eb5ffdd53

Brand New Breitling SA White with Crosswind Special Manual? The COSC Certificate also looks suspicious...

Authentic?

There's a very good SA rep, judging by the lume on this I think that it's OK, but far from certain and I would be vary wary of buying without matching papers.

Yes, the instruction book and hang tag are fake, from well known Crosswind Special fakers kit. And the COSC certificate is probably fake too.

I'm swaying to think the watch maybe fake too:
-The serial no. is 2320xxx, and I've seen that range on fakes.
-The square lume dots look too close to the batons
-"Automatic" text on dial too close to sub rim
-The inscription round the caseback center logo, especially the ref. no., looks a too close to the edge.


Edit:
The only thing that convinced me its was real is the quality of the rider tab engravings, but after comparing with this known real one ( http://www.blowers-jewellers.co.uk/imag ... S13957.htm ) I'm not sure:

- The 15 and 45 seem to go too close to the outer edge of the tab. And the 1 looks different, the top serif is much shorter

PS. The applied Wings logo on dial is different to the ones I've seen. There is no loop in the middle of the B. Not sure if they changed the design at some point (I know early versions had a much smaller applied wings)

_________________
Breitling (Navitimer A23322, Aerospace, Chronomat Blackbird, Chronomat A13352 +UTC)
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Gran Sport, Zenith Elite 670
Marathon (SAR, JSAR), Ollech & Wajs Cobra

I'm going to say fake. The endlink on the 12 o'clock side isn't stamped with a code.

_________________
Steelfish GMT LE (white)

Based on the bevelled edges to the date aperture, my gut feel is it's a v3 replica.

Reported for definite fake papers and suspected fake watch.

_________________

For more information on identifying Breitling replicas, please visit my web site
http://f4buz.com/watches/breitling/fakes/fakes.html

Reported as "Manual, COSC cert and hang tag are fake, suspect this is the virtually perfect fake of this watch."

+1 Reported as fake box/paperwork, so watch maybe fake too

I'm almost sure the watch is fake. I've seen one on a replica site that looks exactly the same, complete with all the inconsistencies I noted plus the bevelled date window that Sharky mentioned.

_________________
Breitling (Navitimer A23322, Aerospace, Chronomat Blackbird, Chronomat A13352 +UTC)
Jaeger-LeCoultre Reverso Gran Sport, Zenith Elite 670
Marathon (SAR, JSAR), Ollech & Wajs Cobra

Fake.
Note the caseback logo and minute marks by the 3,6,9 hour markers should be the same length.

Jeez, these fakes are getting SERIOUSLY good these days. Wonder how long it'll be before we see one that externally can't be distinguished from the real thing.

_________________
Driver8

Site Moderator

There's an EVO which can't be called out and the SOH needs a macro of the case back.

And that's for us seasoned rep spotters. Lord help the poor saps on eBay.

_________________

For more information on identifying Breitling replicas, please visit my web site
http://f4buz.com/watches/breitling/fakes/fakes.html

Thats a fake for sure!

Engravings on caseback are obvious tells!

Look even on the date window. Comparing to mine, the silver rounding are to big. it should perfectly aline with the date window!