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The chrono certainly makes a difference price wise, but 9k for an ETA chrono? Thats nuts. At least Rolex has an in-house movement which is the x-factor which has a value that cant be quantified.

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The new Navi 01 (non-LE) is in house, not ETA. On bracelet, it appears to be retailing for just over $9400, which is worse than I thought. The last ETA Navi, which is on the way out, still retails on bracelet for just under $7k.

I think its an in-house chrono for 9k on the Navi 01 non-le.

Imo, value is not subjective....buy a navi 01 right now, wait a year, sell it, what would you get for it? (use the chronomat b01's as a reference) Buy a SubC today, sell it a year from now, and you'll get in the neighborhood of what you paid for it.

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"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"

There's more than one concept of value. In terms of resale, Rolex wins, hands down; as Sergio says, it's not subjective, insofar as it's quantifiable. But for some people, resale is a less important aspect of what they "value" in a watch. Navi fans might consider $9.4k reasonable for an in-house version of what they feel is Breitling's flagship watch. If those same people don't like Rolexes, they might consider Rolex prices a rip-off. It's all a matter of perspective. Personally, I think Breitling's new price points for the 01-based models are ridiculous, but does that mean Rolex is a better value? If I want a Rolex chronograph, I can expect to pay close to $12k for their base model Daytona, and the thing doesn't even have a date on it. Like I said...perspective.

Ah, got it. For some reason I though we were talking about that Constellation model.

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I agree that the prices for the 01 caliber models have started to exceed the offering, but I wont go as far to say that I think a Rolex is a better value. All the talk about entry price, and resale value and nobody is considering the steeper discounts offered on Breitling.

Comparing a $9000 Breitling Navitimer to a $9000 Rolex Sub-C, (or any model for that matter) is not really a fair comparison. It seems like more people get discounts on Rolex than dont get discounts and pay full retail on a Ling. For arguments sake a 20% discount brings the Ling to $7,200, and considering a 5% discount on the Rolex we total up at $8,550.

There is also the option to go with a strap in place of the bracelet. usually the strap vs bracelet argument is more of a personal preference thing, but with the Navi, going with a strap can also shave quite a bit off the out the door price. A crocco deployant would be the next step down, and that has to be $700 or so less than the bracelet. Plus the Navi is born for a strap, but that is jmo.

Without taking taxes into account that is about a $2000 difference in price or 22% of the total price. I am a bit biased, but I certainly think that the new Transocean, Navi, and even B01 models are at least 80% of the watch. Plus they are a hell of a lot more interesting

Sorry to shoot down your theory Thomas but the SubC retails for $7,375. And a 10% discount at minimum is easily obtainable.

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"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"

I was thinking about the DSSD. The Sub-C @ $7,375 actually sounds pretty reasonable and considering 10% off the two would be a pretty even draw, price wise, at about $6600 out the door. Tough call but I would say a pretty even match up, one offering watches completely manufactured in house an the other offering a chrono. I guess in my eyes that will be more of a preference of the buyer. Good problem to have either way.

But really I was just looking at the different discount levels that can be had on any of the new offerings from both companies. In general someone who is able to get a 10% discount on a Rolex could probably get 25%+ on the same new model Breitling

If the Constellation is going for $9k, that is a ripoff.

sure i get it they make all their stuff in house and there is a premium associated with that. i just think the pricing is steep. JMO. i love the rolex brand as of late you know that. how many PM's have i sent you with my silly subc and pricing questions...lol.

i agree that the new breitlings are out of wack in terms of pricing. and for the record i would take a new subc over a navi b01 any day of the week.

I believe the Deep Sea Dweller is about $9,300 or so....what is the average discount one can pull at their local AD if you have purchased multiple watches from them before?

Also can just the head be purchased? If so how much are they? I suddenly became very interested in these as well I wouldn't be interested with it on a bracelet though...I would like something more sporty, either rubber or some other type of cool strap I can find.

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Past: BlackBird, Navi World, SA, Rolex DJII, IWC Yacht Club
Present: CE, DSSD
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Authenticwatches.com lists retail on the DSSD as $9800. I don't know if that's accurate, but I have found their list prices to be accurate and up to date on other watches, FWIW.

They are a bit off on many of the Rolex sport models. A lot of them are a couple of hundred bucks above list price.

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not sure if you can buy just the head. i think on an average you could probably get 10% off. if you know someone who has a good hook up they might be able to get you 15%. wish i could help you more but i live in canada and they like to rip us off up here lol

I got my limited edition 2009 navitimer for 28% off so comparing retail prices is not so wise. At least 20% off for breitling while rolex you can get 0-10% most of the time ....