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If you're going to ask for a partial refund, just get all your money back and buy somewhere else.

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Justin
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I suggested partial because I figure theres a good chance that they say no refunds because its been worn. If thats the case, he might be able to have them just refund him a little bit of it so that he keeps the waych.


OP: Considering that the deal is already done, id say that if you could get 15% back (standard dealer discount) you will have done okay.

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-RJ

Just my personal opinion, but if you really love the watch and plan on having it for years to come, you shouldn't feel like you got "hosed." Nobody likes paying more than they have to, but again, in my opinion, if you paid retail vs. getting a discount, in the overall scheme of things, it's not that bad.

If you paid more than retail, then hell yes, I'd complain up a storm and contact Breitling directly to let them know about this shady AD, but you're not the first, and you won't be the last, to pay retail for a Breitling.

Wear it without regret if you love it that much.

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PAM359, Omega PO Big Size, 1951 Omega Seamaster, Rolex Sea Dweller

I paid slightly more than retail for my latest Airwolf even with a %15 discount. But it is the Naval Aviation Centennial L/E and it's sentimental value far exceeds the retail value. My story is this...the edition number of the piece is 460 of 500, the 4 is representative of the nearly quarter of the century I have been directly involved with Naval Aviation and the 60 is the type of aircraft I fly in (Sikorsky SH-60. The model of watch is the Airwolf and my current Squadron's mascot is a Airwolf (HSM-40 Airwolves). I bought the watch in Pensacola, FL where I started my Naval Aviation career almost 23 years ago. I could have gotten the same watch (with higher edition number) in my home town but it would not have meant the same to me as this one does and I could not have gotten the %15 discount. If something about that particular watch makes it "yours" than price doesn't matter. Especially if you have the means to buy it at that price. But if you can get the same piece at a lower price than you should.

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11' US Naval Aviation Centennial Airwolf L/E
Ocean Racer band
10' Avenger Seawolf Chrono "BLACKSTEEL" L/E
Diver Pro II band
08' Chronomat Evolution
SS/18K w/ SS/18K Pilot Bracelet
06' Philip Stein "SPORT"

If you are building a relationship with the AD in question, this was your "I didn't do enough research" lesson.

I wouldn't go back, and if your considering a second, it's not like you have been saving for 10 years to buy it.

I wouldn't even care about the price. I just did the same thing with a 135i. Sure I may have been able to save $1000 if I did some running around and haggled till the cows came home, but it was the right car, at the right time. It was there, I wanted it. End of story.

If you love it, it was what you wanted, and it was there, you got it. End of story. I would pay more than retail in the right circumstances.

Enjoy the pickup and wear it in good health!

I do not agree with going back to the AD and asking for a partial discount. Nobody forced you to buy the watch. You just made an ill informed purchase. No big deal, we have all done it. Don't let it bother you and enjoy your watch.

I'm going to leave it alone. It's an incredible watch and it's really the AD that is going to miss out on my repeat business. Honestly, if I had not thought I had gotten taken I wouldn't have discovered this forum. I learned a ton about the biz and made some new contacts for my next purchase. So I think I came out on top.

$1000+ is a lot of money. If I had a chance at getting that money back, id jump at it. At the very least, id head over to the AD and let them know how I felt. Let them know that ive since discovered that a nominal discount is basically the industry standard these days.

I agree that the OP is at fault for not doing his research. While the AD is free to give it to the customer and charge full price, it seems that those types of dealers are few and far between these days. This is the conversation ive always had with dealers that ive never been to: "This one goes for $5800." "$5800?" "Yes, but I can give it to you for $4600."

The silver lining is that the OP is happy with the watch, regardless of what he paid for it.

EDIT: BTW, why do I have the aching feeling that this all went down at Tourneau?

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-RJ

Royal Maui Jewelers in San Diego for people that might want to purchase there. And RJRJRJ is right, it is my fault for not doing my research and not even asking for a lower price. Lesson learned.

EDIT: Not sure about forum policy for outing ADs. Delete if not allowed.

I have to disagree with some of the views on here. The AD didn't take advantage of you, it's the buyer's responsibility to negotiate a discount off of MSRP. Did you ask for a discount? Did you attempt to negotiate? The sales person did their job by trying to sell the item for the highest amount possible by staying within the guidelines. Now....if they sold it to you over MSRP then that is a big problem, but I don't think that has happened here.

I still would attempt to return the item but the AD cannot be blamed for this....there is no rule saying that the dealer has to offer a discount. Sorry.

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"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"

I look at it any major purchase as "A Haggling Situation" Do you pay sticker for a car ? No ( Unless M3 or M5 ) Do you pay asking price for a Dwelling you wish to purchase? No . I believe on any major purchase you should try and negotiate. The Ad is just like any other salesman, if you are willing to pay full price why give a discount, its up to the consumer to come with prepared , if it were me I would take it back. Good luck Bud!!

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One Watch At A Time.

You wouldn't, I wouldn't either...but not everyone thinks the way we do. Obviously, the OP didn't realize that you can negotiate a watch purchase. The first time I saw a Breitling watch was at an AD in the Beverly Hills Hilton when I was on vacation. I was looking at buying an Evolution, the AD never offered a discount and I never asked for one....I did not think you could negotiate a watch.

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"I don't own any watches, I just lease them"

Serge; Many may assume you can't get a discount and if you don't ask, how can the AD be faulted.

Salesman: $9800
Customer: Ok, I'll take it.
Salesman: Are you sure you don't want to pay less?

Huh?

The suggestion of trying to return it because of buyers remorse is riduclous IMO.

OP is right in saying he won't try.

Let me do my best Kissinger here - Sergio specifically does not fault the AD and it seems the OP doesn't either. Nor do I for that matter and I was in the same boat as the OP once, holding a Breitling I paid full sticker and sales tax for.


Now RJRJRJ's example is really a negotiation - "$5,800?!?" meaning "I can't afford THAT."


Meanwhile, I wonder if I've been missing out on discounts on Skittles all this time. That would really suck.

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SHARKMAN

Im not saying that the salesman is wrong. It just doesnt seem to me that he is ever expecting Eightythree to return or build a long standing relationship with them. Im assuming that Eightythree would like to have a local place to browse and shop, and if letting them know that and hopefully getting something back from them will contribute to establishing that, I thinks its a perfectly acceptable option.

Anyway, the AD might have a zero discount policy. Even though ive never heard of such a place, if thats the case, then I guess there is nothing to be upset about.

@Sharkman
I was just pointing out that its so common and standard these days, that something as simple as repeating the price counts as negotiation, whether by intention or not.

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-RJ