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 Post subject: Re: Bentley GT Ice
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:12 pm 
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perfect for ladies.


s*** i actuall like it :oops:


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It is an absolutely beautiful watch. The white leather/rubber is perfect for women or guidos.


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Intriguing comments. Lots of stereo typing. I find it interesting that many people complain that Breitling ( Rolex too ) keep producing the same old styles, and doesn't change. When they make a few new offerings, people complain and make all kinds of comments about what direction they are going in etc etc. The manufacturers are in a lose lose situation. No matter what they produce, 1/3 of the population will bitch.


I think we just want to see some innovation. Releasing a blacksteel model, white strap or a gimmickly colored bezel just doesnt cut it. I also realize that those of us on sites like this are probably in a completely demographic than a large portion of Breitling buyers. So just because we dont like stuff doesnt mean that they wont sell.

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kloogy wrote:
Intriguing comments. Lots of stereo typing. I find it interesting that many people complain that Breitling ( Rolex too ) keep producing the same old styles, and doesn't change. When they make a few new offerings, people complain and make all kinds of comments about what direction they are going in etc etc. The manufacturers are in a lose lose situation. No matter what they produce, 1/3 of the population will bitch.


I think we just want to see some innovation. Releasing a blacksteel model, white strap or a gimmickly colored bezel just doesnt cut it. I also realize that those of us on sites like this are probably in a completely demographic than a large portion of Breitling buyers. So just because we dont like stuff doesnt mean that they wont sell.


Exactly RJ. Just look at the reaction to the Navi 01 and the Transocean. They were overwhelmingly good, Sergio not withstanding, but crap like this and rubber bezels and black diamonds on the lugs really alienates the brand from what people first loved about Breitlings. Hell even the B01 and the SOII, which are way different than Breitling fans are used to, got a lot of good responses. In my opinion of course.

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RJRJRJ wrote:
I think we just want to see some innovation. Releasing a blacksteel model, white strap or a gimmickly colored bezel just doesnt cut it. I also realize that those of us on sites like this are probably in a completely demographic than a large portion of Breitling buyers. So just because we dont like stuff doesnt mean that they wont sell.

:yeahthat You just need to look at what Panerai have been producing in recent years to see the kind of thing we mean. They manage to VERY effectively tread the fine line of staying totally true to their roots (and hence their existing fan-base) while still producing interesting new designs in new materials. In contrast, Breitling have been making some very "eclectic" design decisions recently, that both aren't very ground-breaking (DLC and coloured rubber on everything), and also don't stay true to their origins. That said, they HAVE made a few very nice models recently..... but they've also churned out a lot of coloured rubber encrusted rubbish too. (IMO of course!)

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Overall I was on the fence with this one. (I'm a big B for B fan) Then I read white rubber strap...I fell over to the bad side of the fence. jmho


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Would look a helluva lot better on a bracelet.

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I like it. Women can easily pull off 40-42mm watches these days, so why not stepping it up a notch?

If Leryn Franco can make a 43mm -- and very thick -- Rolex DeepSea look great on her ...



I think the reason the DSSD looked so good on her is merely the symmetry the photographer was going for in the composition. It REALLY worked too! :drool: Kept the image from being all lopsided. :)

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RJRJRJ wrote:
I think we just want to see some innovation. Releasing a blacksteel model, white strap or a gimmickly colored bezel just doesnt cut it. I also realize that those of us on sites like this are probably in a completely demographic than a large portion of Breitling buyers. So just because we dont like stuff doesnt mean that they wont sell.

:yeahthat You just need to look at what Panerai have been producing in recent years to see the kind of thing we mean. They manage to VERY effectively tread the fine line of staying totally true to their roots (and hence their existing fan-base) while still producing interesting new designs in new materials. In contrast, Breitling have been making some very "eclectic" design decisions recently, that both aren't very ground-breaking (DLC and coloured rubber on everything), and also don't stay true to their origins. That said, they HAVE made a few very nice models recently..... but they've also churned out a lot of coloured rubber encrusted rubbish too. (IMO of course!)



I do agree to a degree, but had a silent chuckle. Having seen in person not only the red but also the orange rubber bezel Skyracer Ravens, you might want to look at the precise shades of red and orange in your LE3 mockups. I know you were working with some internet based limitations, but.............. :)

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Breitling could use a few more true white dials.


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kloogy wrote:
Intriguing comments. Lots of stereo typing. I find it interesting that many people complain that Breitling ( Rolex too ) keep producing the same old styles, and doesn't change. When they make a few new offerings, people complain and make all kinds of comments about what direction they are going in etc etc. The manufacturers are in a lose lose situation. No matter what they produce, 1/3 of the population will bitch.



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Look at it this way. They produce a wide selection of watches to cater to different tastes. That's how a company stays successful. Look at the Flying B. Quite different from most Breitlings. I personally think it looks horrid. Something my Grandfather would've liked. But I know many of you own and love them. I like the big dials. The company is just making a diverse number of styles. It doesn't mean they are "selling out" or anything. It's just them trying to make money. Let's not start sound like the Rolex forum and their Geritol members ! :P


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Driver8 wrote:
RJRJRJ wrote:
I think we just want to see some innovation. Releasing a blacksteel model, white strap or a gimmickly colored bezel just doesnt cut it. I also realize that those of us on sites like this are probably in a completely demographic than a large portion of Breitling buyers. So just because we dont like stuff doesnt mean that they wont sell.

:yeahthat You just need to look at what Panerai have been producing in recent years to see the kind of thing we mean. They manage to VERY effectively tread the fine line of staying totally true to their roots (and hence their existing fan-base) while still producing interesting new designs in new materials. In contrast, Breitling have been making some very "eclectic" design decisions recently, that both aren't very ground-breaking (DLC and coloured rubber on everything), and also don't stay true to their origins. That said, they HAVE made a few very nice models recently..... but they've also churned out a lot of coloured rubber encrusted rubbish too. (IMO of course!)


:yeahthat . Well said D8. I think that Panerai is a great example for Breitling to look at. They have remained true to who they are, and at the same time come up with an extremely impressive 2011 line up...just wish a couple of those new releases were in the 44mm range.


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kloogy wrote:
Look at it this way. They produce a wide selection of watches to cater to different tastes. That's how a company stays successful. Look at the Flying B. Quite different from most Breitlings. I personally think it looks horrid. Something my Grandfather would've liked. But I know many of you own and love them. I like the big dials. The company is just making a diverse number of styles. It doesn't mean they are "selling out" or anything. It's just them trying to make money. Let's not start sound like the Rolex forum and their Geritol members ! :P



Flying B is a good example - ADs can't sell them for less than cost!!!

I have no issue with watches appealing to different demographics, I'm just a little confused right now that we are a few days away from a supposedly significant rationalization of the range at Basel - the move away from model ranges, the end of production for a number of models, etc and yet there is an almost constant stream of niche pieces that adds to the diversification.

I would like to understand the market direction because I think that a lot of the confusion (for me) is that I don't see one - I see the expansion of in house movements and I see the expansion of 'same watch different bezel / strap / colour' approach. Clearly these are two distinct trends and while I understand the in house expansion, I don't understand the colour / bezel thing. Of course Breitling doesn't owe me or anyone else an explanation - they are a private company with no external shareholders to answer to, but most watch companies explain their strategies to the media so that their consumers understand what they are about, where they are headed, etc. Breitling doesn't seem keen to do that.

Just my 0.02.


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kloogy wrote:
Look at it this way. They produce a wide selection of watches to cater to different tastes. That's how a company stays successful. Look at the Flying B. Quite different from most Breitlings. I personally think it looks horrid. Something my Grandfather would've liked. But I know many of you own and love them. I like the big dials. The company is just making a diverse number of styles. It doesn't mean they are "selling out" or anything. It's just them trying to make money. Let's not start sound like the Rolex forum and their Geritol members ! :P



Flying B is a good example - ADs can't sell them for less than cost!!!

I have no issue with watches appealing to different demographics, I'm just a little confused right now that we are a few days away from a supposedly significant rationalization of the range at Basel - the move away from model ranges, the end of production for a number of models, etc and yet there is an almost constant stream of niche pieces that adds to the diversification.

I would like to understand the market direction because I think that a lot of the confusion (for me) is that I don't see one - I see the expansion of in house movements and I see the expansion of 'same watch different bezel / strap / colour' approach. Clearly these are two distinct trends and while I understand the in house expansion, I don't understand the colour / bezel thing. Of course Breitling doesn't owe me or anyone else an explanation - they are a private company with no external shareholders to answer to, but most watch companies explain their strategies to the media so that their consumers understand what they are about, where they are headed, etc. Breitling doesn't seem keen to do that.

Just my 0.02.[/quote


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