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 Post subject: Re: Chrono Galactic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:31 am 
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Technically the only thing wrong with this watch, i.e., the only thing that does not make it a CG, are the hands.

The bezel is different, too. The CG has the Buck Rogers bezel. This watch has a CC bezel.

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The seller is claiming the watch is a Chrono Galactic, which it is, again except for the hands, if the cases are the same for both watches.
Or perhaps it's actually a Chrono Cockpit except for the dial. Really, we don't know. Assuming the CC and CG have the same case, the only parts that distinguish the two models are the hands, dial and bezel. Two out of the three variables here are that of the Cockpit. Only the dial is that of a Galactic. On balance, it would seem it's a CC that got a dial change at some point, either on purpose or by mistake. But again, we don't really know, and neither does the seller. All we know is it's got elements of both models, which technically makes it other than what is listed in the seller's description. And I think we both agree that's not good for the buyer, unless he's a pretty savvy one.

Irregardless (i'm confused now :) )I reported it as wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono Galactic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:43 am 
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br549 wrote:
i'm confused now :)

I know. We've gone back and forth on it so many times. Here's the lowdown, as I see it. The listing says it's a Chrono Galactic. It's got a Chrono Galactic dial, but the bezel and hands are that of a Chrono Cockpit. The case is (or appears to be) the same for both models, as is the reference number. So, barring being able to look up the model associated with the serial number, that's the best we can do: either it's a CC with a CG dial, or it's a CG with CC bezel and hands. Take your pick. The whys and wherefores are a mystery. But either way...yeah, the listing is wrong.

OK, I think we've beaten this one to death. Time for egg nog and presents. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:50 am 
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i'm confused now :)

I know. We've gone back and forth on it so many times. Here's the lowdown, as I see it. The listing says it's a Chrono Galactic. It's got a Chrono Galactic dial, but the bezel and hands are that of a Chrono Cockpit. The case is (or appears to be) the same for both models, as is the reference number. So, barring being able to look up the model associated with the serial number, that's the best we can do: either it's a CC with a CG dial, or it's a CG with CC bezel and hands. Take your pick. The whys and wherefores are a mystery. But either way...yeah, the listing is wrong.

OK, I think we've beaten this one to death. Time for egg nog and presents. :wink:

Egg nog at 5:43 AM Oregon time. You guys get it started early. :lol:

Merry Christmas to you and yours. :santa:


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono Galactic
PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 6:46 am 
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BTW JacksonStone I did find a category other than fraudulent on ebay's list. There is one under "Listing Policy Violations" for "Misleading Title" which I think is probably the most appropriate since of course it is not a Chrono Galactic.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:08 am 
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There is one under "Listing Policy Violations" for "Misleading Title" which I think is probably the most appropriate since of course it is not a Chrono Galactic.

Agreed. 'Fraudulent' did seem a bit strong, but it was what I saw, so I went with it. I'll remember 'Misleading Title' for future reference, though.

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For what it's worth, my guess is that this is a genuine C13358 Chrono Cockpit which has had a Chrono Galactic dial replacement during a service. This is consistent with Breitling updating a watch when they run out of old parts.

In the absence of paperwork, the seller (a Las Vegas pawn shop?) has probably looked up C13358 and going on the dial, found it to be the Chrono Galactic so used that in the description. Whilst I agree the title is misleading, I don't think the seller is attempting a scam here.

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 Post subject: Re: Chrono Galactic
PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:07 am 
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This is consistent with Breitling updating a watch when they run out of old parts.

It strikes me as a bit unusual, since I wouldn't think Breitling would allow for an optional dial change that would result in an incorrect model; and why would a Cockpit, which at the outside is a 4-5 year old model, require a dial change so soon?

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Whilst I agree the title is misleading, I don't think the seller is attempting a scam here.

Scam, no, but the seller still hasn't bothered to change a thing about the listing, even though I informed him of the anomalies of the watch, which suggests he isn't all that concerned with accuracy, either. Then again, if the reference is coming up as Galactic, maybe he dismissed me either as an idiot or a crank.


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It looks like a mixture of CG and CC, but the bezel as it is was never used in a CC: The riders look rosegold as well. I have sold at least two old Chronomats with goldbezel, where the customer wanted goldriders instead of the steel ones, and it is easy to change. The hands of the watch look like the original hands of the CC. Well, I will have to check the serial number...

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 Post subject: Re: Chrono Galactic
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:21 am 
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Well, I will have to check the serial number...

Yes! :popcorn:


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Alien wrote:
but the bezel as it is was never used in a CC

Please explain.
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The riders look rosegold as well.

They are and they should be.


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 Post subject: Re: Chrono Galactic
PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:26 pm 
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I have no idea how I missed this before, but one of the CC pictures in the models section of this site shows a two-tone CC with a dial that is almost identical to the one on the watch being sold; the only difference is that the rings around the subdials are steel instead of gold. Did the late model CC have a dial the same as or very similar to that of the Galactic?


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2010 8:13 pm 
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I have no idea how I missed this before, but one of the CC pictures in the models section of this site shows a two-tone CC with a dial that is almost identical to the one on the watch being sold; the only difference is that the rings around the subdials are steel instead of gold. Did the late model CC have a dial the same as or very similar to that of the Galactic?

I think Administration probably put the wrong picture on that models page. CC doesn't /didn't come in batons. That's a CG.


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I think Administration probably put the wrong picture on that models page. CC doesn't /didn't come in batons. That's a CG.

Forgive me for opening this can of worms again, but...what about the bezel? :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2010 3:53 am 
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JacksonStone wrote:
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I think Administration probably put the wrong picture on that models page. CC doesn't /didn't come in batons. That's a CG.

Forgive me for opening this can of worms again, but...what about the bezel? :lol:

Dang. I didn't even look at the bezel. Paid my full attention to the dial.
I have no idea. :huh Evidently Administration knows something we don't.


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Forgive me for opening this can of worms again, but...what about the bezel? :lol:

You posted a photo of a B13358, C has gold bezel and gold riders.


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