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Jomashop lists a slate gray dial and two different black dials (both look similar in pictures). All are listed as model A4935011. The slate gray has a secondary number of F523SS. One black dial has a secondary number of B779SS and is listed as being from the Cockpit series; the other is B912SS and is listed as being from the Cockpit 2008 series. Are these the same watch from two different production lots, or are they different in some way? .


Well I can tell you my Cockpit was made in the 50th week of 2007, which would lead me to believe that a "2008 series" Cockpit would be the same (shown earlier in this thread).

Personally, I wouldn't fully trust the pictures listed to truly reflect how the watch will look.

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Iantheklutz wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't fully trust the pictures listed to truly reflect how the watch will look.

I don't, either. In fact, I even wondered if the 2008 Cockpit was the later one with the Romans around the edge and the square in the middle of the dial, and Jomashop just used the wrong picture. Or is the later one from 2009?

Mainly, I just want a reliable reference number(s) for the earlier generation black dial Cockpit, in case I decide to shop around. (I'm in the market and am considering several different models.) It wouldn't also hurt to know the reference number(s) for the gray one, just to be able to tell if a dealer is mistaking it for black.

One other query - I know this comes down to personal preference, but if I decide I really want a Cockpit, and I can't track one down at an AD, would it be worth getting one through a place like Jomashop? Typically I try to avoid the gray market, but sometimes that might be the only option.


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The concentric circles to square change was announced at Basel 2008.


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Roff, do you know the reference numbers?


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JacksonStone wrote:
Roff, do you know the reference numbers?



Not off the top of my head, will try to look them up.


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Thanks. Much appreciated.


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I have not been keeping up to date on the commings and goings of Breitling for a whiole and was horrified to see that the cockpit was replaced by the galactic...
I loved the cockpit as it was and dont even like the name galactic..my opinion ofcourse!!!

I thing Breitling are making way to many changes in their lineup...how about the drastic changes to the good old superocean....glad I got mine when they still looked like they did in 2008....

I looked through my new catalog and did not even see the B01...whats the deal here???? I assume it has its own catalog.....
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JacksonStone wrote:
Roff, do you know the reference numbers?

The same as the older one A4935011


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bnewbie wrote:
The same as the older one A4935011

I'm afraid I don't know what you mean. I went to the BS FAQ page on reference numbers. A = all steel; 49 = the caliber; 3 = COSC certified; and I presume 50 = the Cockpit. So then what's 11? Is that supposed to reference a dial color? Jomashop uses A4935011 for all Cockpit 41mm standard (non-chronograph) watches, regardless of color; the color is evidently referenced by the secondary number, after the dash. I'm trying to figure out what the secondary number is specifically for the older black-dial Cockpit with the concentric rings.


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I loved the cockpit as it was and dont even like the name galactic..my opinion ofcourse!!!

It's not just your opinion, Pete. A lot of people feel that way. A number of us are also disheartened by the direction Breitling has taken with their styling, which has largely altered the Windrider line, as well as several others. So far the Navi line seems to be fairly safe, but for those of us (like me) who were lured to Breitling by the Windriders, it's been a tough go of late. I have to admit, it has caused me to look more closely at other brands for my next watch...as well as my previous watch.


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JacksonStone wrote:
I'm afraid I don't know what you mean.

The red number marks dial configuration when the model's ref# is the same.
Example with SO A1736011.... http://media.photobucket.com/image/brei ... 1239329567
and A1736006.... http://www.breitlingblog.com/wp-content ... rocean.jpg
Weird that last two digits with change of Cockpit didn't change.


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Ah, OK. So 11 references the concentric ring configuration, I take it. But what about the color?


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JacksonStone wrote:
Ah, OK. So 11 references the concentric dial configuration, I take it. But what about the color?

In this case 11 marks both dials older and newer, which is confusing to me.
Dial color is marked with a letter and three digits.


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bnewbie wrote:
In this case 11 marks both dials older and newer, which is confusing to me.
Dial color is marked with a letter and three digits.

OK...now I understand what you meant in your first post: both the concentric ring dial and the square-middle dial on the Cockpit are marked by 11. In that case could the "2008 Cockpit" could be the square-middle dial, and Jomashop just screwed up the pic? I feel pretty uneasy using Jomashop as my source for a definitive reference number, but from their listings I can infer that B779 references the concentric circle dial, and B912 references the square-middle dial, both in black. That's just a guess, though. I wish I had a few Chronologs from this era to get this all settled.

And if this is confusing to you, just imagine how it is for me! :wink:


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Correct.
B779 is older style black dial, newer style black is marked B912.
This things are written in Dealer's Handbooks, not Chronologs. :wink:


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