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There's no way I'd pay $10,900 (minus discount) for a modified ETA movement. For that kind of money I can pay a few bucks more and get an awesome Pam or JLC. Their sneaky advertising just cost themselves a potential customer.

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Modified ETA? For $10k now I merely like it. Cut $5k off of the price and I'd like it a lot more.

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You can pay a heck of a lot more than that for a modified ETA Bucherer.
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you can pay waaay more than that for a modified eta breitling too
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Sure you CAN but I'd never do that. My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.

I'm at the point now where I want innovativeness, not just a hot looking watch.

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mfserge wrote:
My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.



+1. Why spend that kind of money on a modified ETA when there are many great options with an in house movement in the same price range?
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john123 wrote:
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My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.



+1. Why spend that kind of money on a modified ETA when there are many great options with an in house movement in the same price range?


I've had this discussion with another member recently..Maybe I'm becoming a watch snob but the $3k, $4k, $5k watches out there don't wow me anymore enough to buy them. I want in house, or different complications, or different metals....and for the same price you can get a grade 5 titanium finished JLC Navy Seals Alarm..

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They've been advertising a cool movement. The rotor is integrated on the outside. It does not block the movement like every other automatic.


I remember seeing that. The design was very cool. Didnt the rotor spin around on some type of ball bearings or something?

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mfserge wrote:
Sure you CAN but I'd never do that. My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.

I'm at the point now where I want innovativeness, not just a hot looking watch.

sorry, but i don't get it..... do you have a minimum of idea of what Carl Bucherer completely redesigned and modified this movement?
maybe you should check here before to say 'i want innovativeness'.... this is absolutely a poor sentence from you, especially regarding this movement of the traveltd.

for me, this is innovativeness and high manufacture...

http://www.patravi-traveltec-gmt.com/en ... utton.html

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mfserge wrote:
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mfserge wrote:
My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.



+1. Why spend that kind of money on a modified ETA when there are many great options with an in house movement in the same price range?


I've had this discussion with another member recently..Maybe I'm becoming a watch snob but the $3k, $4k, $5k watches out there don't wow me anymore enough to buy them. I want in house, or different complications, or different metals....and for the same price you can get a grade 5 titanium finished JLC Navy Seals Alarm..



Hmmmmm...now there's an idea. :plot:
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electrosound wrote:
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Sure you CAN but I'd never do that. My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.

I'm at the point now where I want innovativeness, not just a hot looking watch.

sorry, but i don't get it..... do you have a minimum of idea of what Carl Bucherer completely redesigned and modified this movement?
maybe you should check here before to say 'i want innovativeness'.... this is absolutely a poor sentence from you, especially regarding this movement of the traveltd.

for me, this is innovativeness and high manufacture...

http://www.patravi-traveltec-gmt.com/en ... utton.html


Well i'm glad you feel that way; enjoy it when you buy it. I for one, will not, especially after they try to fool people with the way they position their movement description.....to make people think it's an inhouse design/build. I don't care how much they modify it!!

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mfserge wrote:
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mfserge wrote:
Sure you CAN but I'd never do that. My own personal opinion is for that kind of money it has to be an in house movement otherwise I'll pass.....regardless of how much I like the features or design.

I'm at the point now where I want innovativeness, not just a hot looking watch.

sorry, but i don't get it..... do you have a minimum of idea of what Carl Bucherer completely redesigned and modified this movement?
maybe you should check here before to say 'i want innovativeness'.... this is absolutely a poor sentence from you, especially regarding this movement of the traveltd.

for me, this is innovativeness and high manufacture...

http://www.patravi-traveltec-gmt.com/en ... utton.html


Well i'm glad you feel that way; enjoy it when you buy it. I for one, will not, especially after they try to fool people with the way they position their movement description.....to make people think it's an inhouse design/build. I don't care how much they modify it!!


to say that a movement is developed, is right and it is not trying to fool people.. they dont' say thy manufactured the movement in house etc... as breitling correctly says for the B01... it's 100% correct to say 'developed' after such a re-design and adds of such differents complictions in order to set a second and third timezone without stopping the movement, etc... see the details on the link i posted and on internet you will find very accurate and positive reviews.

so, i think you only have a Breitling B01 in your collection, as you don't care of watches without an in house movement, right?

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so, i think you only have a Breitling B01 in your collection, as you don't care of watches without an in house movement, right?


You couldn't be more wrong on that one buddy.

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RJRJRJ wrote:
RXPete wrote:
They've been advertising a cool movement. The rotor is integrated on the outside. It does not block the movement like every other automatic.


I remember seeing that. The design was very cool. Didnt the rotor spin around on some type of ball bearings or something?



The CFB A1000 in house movement has a perimeter rotor - basicaly replacing the traditional half moon with just a weighted strip that runs around the outside of the movement (on ball bearings as you say).
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roman4405 wrote:
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so, i think you only have a Breitling B01 in your collection, as you don't care of watches without an in house movement, right?


You couldn't be more wrong on that one buddy.

why?
if mfserge is coherent on what he said, i would guess he only have Breitling's with in house movements.

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