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Just one more thing I have to tell. I don't know where you live, but I think that the "where" doesn't matter.
If u care of your family, buy a nice watch but not that expensive. What would happen if someone kidnaps you to get money thinking that you are a rich boy?
How would your family feel if that person kills you because he don't believe that your family doesn't have a millon dollars when their 16 or 17 years old son is wearing a 10k watch?
It's up to you.
That's one of the many reasons why I'm now using a g-shock.
I remember how scared was a friend of mine when we were going home after dinner and some stupid guy stopped us in front of my car and point me with a gun.
Luckily my car is automatic and I was stepping on the brake, so when I saw the gun pointed at me I accelerated to kill that motherf**ker and unfortunately that MF was saved by a few inches.



Ok that's your reality where you are and sorry it happened, but it's pretty remote here. As scary and real as that was for you, using it in this context is about as persuasive as the movie "Reefer Madness" was in my high school "Health" class.

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CountDuckula wrote:
Just one more thing I have to tell. I don't know where you live, but I think that the "where" doesn't matter.
If u care of your family, buy a nice watch but not that expensive. What would happen if someone kidnaps you to get money thinking that you are a rich boy?
How would your family feel if that person kills you because he don't believe that your family doesn't have a millon dollars when their 16 or 17 years old son is wearing a 10k watch?
It's up to you.
That's one of the many reasons why I'm now using a g-shock.
I remember how scared was a friend of mine when we were going home after dinner and some stupid guy stopped us in front of my car and point me with a gun.
Luckily my car is automatic and I was stepping on the brake, so when I saw the gun pointed at me I accelerated to kill that motherf**ker and unfortunately that MF was saved by a few inches.


dam countduckula that is the craziest story i have heard on here. just curious how was the guy saved? i would have figured you would have ran right through him


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CountDuckula wrote:
Just one more thing I have to tell. I don't know where you live, but I think that the "where" doesn't matter.
If u care of your family, buy a nice watch but not that expensive. What would happen if someone kidnaps you to get money thinking that you are a rich boy?
How would your family feel if that person kills you because he don't believe that your family doesn't have a millon dollars when their 16 or 17 years old son is wearing a 10k watch?


Maybe he should get a top of the line Wilson Combat instead. Get that and pay for Thunder Ranch's defensive handgun course. All that'll run only about half that $10k.

Or not. I'm pretty sure the "where" does matter.

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Well this thread had clearly gone to $hit. A young adult is looking for some advice on a passion that we all share and we're now talking about running people over, getting kidnapped, and buying handguns. This is unfortunate. :guns:

I'm guilty when it comes to joking around on here, arguing with a certain mod, but some of the actions lately on here have been downright embarrassing....thrashing a sales thread yesterday, telling a kid he may get kidnapped for having a 10k watch, then telling him that you'd make fun of him for wearking an expensive watch after he worked his tail off to buy it? I'm sorry, but you guys are getting ridiclious....he's shown more maturity that most of us have.

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dam countduckula that is the craziest story i have heard on here. just curious how was the guy saved? i would have figured you would have ran right through him

Yes, and I was thinking to take his gun and shoot the bastard.

If you think that these kind of things only happen in south america or in africa, I think you are very naive. Is a matter of how unfortunate you could be at the moment.


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Well this thread had clearly gone to $hit. A young adult is looking for some advice on a passion that we all share and we're now talking about running people over, getting kidnapped, and buying handguns. This is unfortunate. :guns:

I'm guilty when it comes to joking around on here, arguing with a certain mod, but some of the actions lately on here have been downright embarrassing....thrashing a sales thread yesterday, telling a kid he may get kidnapped for having a 10k watch, then telling him that you'd make fun of him for wearking an expensive watch after he worked his tail off to buy it? I'm sorry, but you guys are getting ridiclious....he's shown more maturity that most of us have.


I'm not joking. As I said "I don't know where he lives" what kind of friends he have and if all his friends wear expensive watches.
I'm giving him an advice.
If you just don't want to see the real world, it's your problem. There are no crimes in the United States? Canada? UK?
It is impossible that he may get kidnapped or someone stole his watch?
You and Mr sharkman are very lucky to live where you are. I guess there are no police departments where you live...


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It is impossible that he may get kidnapped or someone stole his watch?


The fact that an event is not impossible does not mean it merits serious consideration in a risk analysis.

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I never said you were joking. There is no need to make a correlation between being 16 years old wearing an expensive watch and getting robbed....that can happen to ANY of us on ANY day regardless of age or what is on our wrist! Crime is a real serious problem everywhere, but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time it won’t matter what you’re wearing. I personally feel that having an expensive car would make you a bigger target than having an expensive watch....and plenty of people have 'advised' him to go get some nice wheels.

We're way off topic and it's quite silly actually.

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Well this thread had clearly gone to $hit. A young adult is looking for some advice on a passion that we all share and we're now talking about running people over, getting kidnapped, and buying handguns. This is unfortunate. :guns:

I'm guilty when it comes to joking around on here, arguing with a certain mod, but some of the actions lately on here have been downright embarrassing....thrashing a sales thread yesterday, telling a kid he may get kidnapped for having a 10k watch, then telling him that you'd make fun of him for wearking an expensive watch after he worked his tail off to buy it? I'm sorry, but you guys are getting ridiclious....he's shown more maturity that most of us have.


I'm not joking. As I said "I don't know where he lives" what kind of friends he have and if all his friends wear expensive watches.
I'm giving him an advice.
If you just don't want to see the real world, it's your problem. There are no crimes in the United States? Canada? UK?
It is impossible that he may get kidnapped or someone stole his watch?
You and Mr sharkman are very lucky to live where you are. I guess there are no police departments where you live...

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mfserge wrote:
Well this thread had clearly gone to $hit. A young adult is looking for some advice on a passion that we all share and we're now talking about running people over, getting kidnapped, and buying handguns. This is unfortunate. :guns:

I'm guilty when it comes to joking around on here, arguing with a certain mod, but some of the actions lately on here have been downright embarrassing....thrashing a sales thread yesterday, telling a kid he may get kidnapped for having a 10k watch, then telling him that you'd make fun of him for wearking an expensive watch after he worked his tail off to buy it? I'm sorry, but you guys are getting ridiclious....he's shown more maturity that most of us have.



Hope this isn't too shocking Sergio, but......

:yeahthat


One of the best things about this forum is the tolerance of others opinions, and that seems to have been suspended a little (a lot) lately. Within a few hours of making a comment on the referenced sales thread my comment was completely ignored my yet another reference to the debate that I stated was inappropriate.

I have enjoyed being here for almost 3 1/2 years now and have seen some tremendous growth and some 'colourful characters'. I welcome it all, but if tolerance and civility are compromised then we have a problem. I would refer everyone to this thread - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=855


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mfserge wrote:
There is no need to make a correlation between being 16 years old wearing an expensive watch and getting robbed....that can happen to ANY of us on ANY day regardless of age or what is on our wrist! Crime is a real serious problem everywhere, but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time it won’t matter what you’re wearing.


I decided to look up some numbers. According to the FBI[1], there were 102,764 active missing persons cases at the end of 2008. In the US every year, about 120,000 people die in accidents of all kinds[2]. Make of those numbers what you will, but I think your chances of getting abducted in the US are pretty low, watch or no watch.

Oh yikes, 40,000 some people were killed in car wrecks in 2003[3].

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I personally feel that having an expensive car would make you a bigger target than having an expensive watch....and plenty of people have 'advised' him to go get some nice wheels.


Yeah, maybe the car isn't a good iea.


[1] http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ncic/n ... s-for-2008
[2] http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
[3] http://www.car-accidents.com/pages/stats.html

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WOW hot topic. IMO I would not agree on you spending 10k on a watch but that's just me.
Like W44NNE I blow and lost a lots of money on sports cars in my youth and had my first Celica at the age of 18. Back than It was all I could think about and was my passion AT the time. I was getting one no matter what any one said and I was not asking for opinions!!
Every one was telling me all the negatives, cost, petrol, insurance, maintenance not even to mention the danger of it being a relatively fast car for a young driver and that it was a bad idea but no one could tell me other wise. I was focused on it and I was getting it. I was lucky that I worked with my hands and was doing so since 14 so I had the money and the potential to make more through summer work.

Point being that I lost a fortune on cars up to the age of around 27. Now my "passion" has move on from cars to many other things and cars are not that high up on the list :boohoo: . Could do with a MPV now :whiner: ,growing family ETC. DO I regret spending and losing all that money YES and NO. I do not think I would do any thing differently and everything has worked out very well for me so from the point of view NO I really enjoyed and love all the cars. On the YES front all that money could have gone to much better things House, land, shares and boring things but all necessities in later life.


My advice to you would be aer on the side of caution and wait a few more years and work to the goal of getting to 20k saved then see how you feel. That way if you do go ahead with the purchase you have a financial cushion and you can fulfill you dream knowing you worked hard for it. I also see nothing wrong in getting a "stepping stone" watch. Longines (best Swiss value money can but IMO), Steelfish of even a Tag Heuer (I love mine and my Tag would be the second last to go in a clear out) all of which I see absolutely nothing wrong with and I think most will agree would make quite good stepping stones, if not even top watches.

Like Roff said, at 16 you and your opinions, tastes, and priorities will change as you get older so keep that in mind.

If you do go ahead and purchase your 10k watch at the age of 18 I have no doubt that your level head and your determination that motivated you to get it in the first place will carry your through life and all that's ahead of you in it.

Best of luck in your future decisions and savings :lol:


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mfserge wrote:
I never said you were joking. There is no need to make a correlation between being 16 years old wearing an expensive watch and getting robbed....that can happen to ANY of us on ANY day regardless of age or what is on our wrist! Crime is a real serious problem everywhere, but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time it won’t matter what you’re wearing. I personally feel that having an expensive car would make you a bigger target than having an expensive watch....and plenty of people have 'advised' him to go get some nice wheels.

We're way off topic and it's quite silly actually.


Ok, this is my last post on this thread.
"There is no need to make a correlation between being 16 years old wearing an expensive watch and getting robbed..." I guess you know what "probability" is.
"I personally feel that having an expensive car would make you a bigger target than having an expensive watch..." nice wheels doesn't mean expensive car. As I suggested him buying a nice watch. Nobody told him to buy a ferrari, bentley, porsch, etc etc.
I think you misunderstood a lot of things.
The title says "OPINIONS on this absurd idea?"
And in my first thread I said that it is not absurd, it is ridiculous. And the other things I wrote is to explain why I think it is ridiculous.
I NEVER SAID DON'T BUY A 10K WATCH.
If giving an advice and my personal opinion and tell a 16 years old boy what could happen is not being mature as you mentioned. Then... I'm not mature.
If I give my opinion and an explanation why I think this way bothers you... I think I could never post in this forum.
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I love how everyone tries to force their opinions on others...just chill out people.

Your telling us that we are TRYING TO FORCE our opinion bacause we don't agree with you or this guy buying an expensive watch?

I respect the opinions of all members of this forum even if they don't think like me, specially mr roff and mr sharkman (I think he knows why) some other members and yours too, until now.
Just ignore me cause I'm not as mature as you.


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Ok, this is my last post on this thread.


Oh? So you're not going to respond to the data I posted suggesting that you're as likely to be killed by accident in the United States as be abducted?

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I don't know where you live, but I think that the "where" doesn't matter.


Looks like it does matter.

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I take everyone's comments seriously, and though I was offended by some of the remarks, they are true to some degree.

I live in an area where crime is not high and it really is the least of my worries. My mentality has already changed within these past couple days this thread has been up. The idea of earning 20k before getting a 10k watch is brilliant. Really though, it should be a "double or nothing" kind of situation. If I want a 1k watch, I'll earn 2k. and so on. It would give me both satisfactions of hard earned rewards and being able to pocket the rest of the money. To be honest, this was my idea from day one, I wanted to earn 3 times the amount of the watch, 1/3 towards the watch purchase, 1/3 saved and 1/3 invested. However, that has obviously changed! I am only 16 and that's why it makes this case difficult because this is a time when I have no worries of being fed or housed, I can spend all the money I earn, and unless I'm making 10s of thousands, it's really not going to make such a huge impact in my life down the road monetarily (the lessons I learn would be much more valuable). I'm starting to go back to that 3:1 zone, so to speak, and I'm glad you guys knocked that back into me.

However badly I'd want a 10k watch, or an upper high-end watch in general, it's not practical in the reasons stated by everyone and that it'd be that much harder to get that second watch. If my standards are already set so high that I would need to spend OVER 10k to be satisfied, then maybe starting so high isn't such a good idea. There are good watches that are available for well under 5k (especially if I go with a used watch) and if worse comes to worse, I'll just continue my interest in watches without purchasing one if I am really not "feeling it" with any watches under my budget. I guess there really isn't a need to rush things, I am just 16 and have a long, hopefully, life ahead of me.

Thanks for all the "points of wisdom." I have found what I was looking for but feel free to continue the conversation as it is actually much more interesting than I would've imagined.


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I take everyone's comments seriously, and though I was offended by some of the remarks, they are true to some degree.

I live in an area where crime is not high and it really is the least of my worries. My mentality has already changed within these past couple days this thread has been up. The idea of earning 20k before getting a 10k watch is brilliant. Really though, it should be a "double or nothing" kind of situation. If I want a 1k watch, I'll earn 2k. and so on. It would give me both satisfactions of hard earned rewards and being able to pocket the rest of the money. To be honest, this was my idea from day one, I wanted to earn 3 times the amount of the watch, 1/3 towards the watch purchase, 1/3 saved and 1/3 invested. However, that has obviously changed! I am only 16 and that's why it makes this case difficult because this is a time when I have no worries of being fed or housed, I can spend all the money I earn, and unless I'm making 10s of thousands, it's really not going to make such a huge impact in my life down the road monetarily (the lessons I learn would be much more valuable). I'm starting to go back to that 3:1 zone, so to speak, and I'm glad you guys knocked that back into me.

However badly I'd want a 10k watch, or an upper high-end watch in general, it's not practical in the reasons stated by everyone and that it'd be that much harder to get that second watch. If my standards are already set so high that I would need to spend OVER 10k to be satisfied, then maybe starting so high isn't such a good idea. There are good watches that are available for well under 5k (especially if I go with a used watch) and if worse comes to worse, I'll just continue my interest in watches without purchasing one if I am really not "feeling it" with any watches under my budget. I guess there really isn't a need to rush things, I am just 16 and have a long, hopefully, life ahead of me.

Thanks for all the "points of wisdom." I have found what I was looking for but feel free to continue the conversation as it is actually much more interesting than I would've imagined.



I've done it, I've done it. I've cracked the case!! You have far too much class and wit to be 16. This comment is what sunk you. You're a mole, a spy, a double agent, a middle aged aggitator. Sent here by another forum to get us all stirred up and looking stupid. Well you've had your fun but the jig is up. Come on, admit it!! It will be easier on you if you just admit it. How much did WUS pay you to come here?

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