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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:43 pm 
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mfserge wrote:
If it's true that Costcos return policy is as generous as previously stated then who cares about a warranty...if it breaks, return it and get your money back.
It is that generous, up to a point. It's a two-years no questions asked return policy, but they also check to see whether or not you have any "negative purchasing history," meaning if you return too many things, they'll cut you off. Besides, if I really want the watch, I'd rather have it repaired than just return it . Costco will repair it under warranty, but sure as shootin' they won't be sending it back to Breitling, and who knows the quality of watchmakers they'll outsource it to. That's not an absolute reason not to buy from them, but certainly a factor to take into account when deciding whether or not to do so. I'd certainly be less inclined to buy from them if the model is easily obtainable through an AD.


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See my previous advice.


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See my previous advice.
Yes, and well taken. I'm in complete agreement that the wisdom of buying from a place like Costco is in direct proportion to the rarity of the item offered. At this point, I'm more curious to learn if (1) the Montbrillant Olympus has been discontinued (I know Roff said no, but that leads me to my next question...), and (2) generally, is the Breitling website a reliable source for knowing all B models currently in production, or do we need to consult another source, such as the Chronolog?


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I have found it difficult to get timely information from the official site. Often watches are in the hands of board members and spoken about here before they make it onto the site.

While it is entirely possible in fact likely Roff is right, I would call a couple Ads in your area and you should find out within a few minutes what the current status of that watch is availability wise. You could even call Govberg.

My thoughts on the warranty are undecided. While some B01 owners have sent their watch in for regulation and other warranty covered service, it is quite rare to hear about older more proven movements having trouble at all.

Often the threads that the OPs complain about something going wrong with their watch, Breitling is not covering the problem under warranty because it is considered mis-use. In that case your flipping the bill.

If you can get the same watch same price at an AD, the choice is clear. If you can't, get it at Costco or other grey market sites... same result.

As you said, if it breaks you will likely repair it as you want to keep it, it would be going straight back to BUSA.


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With the MB Olympus you are better off buying from an AD and having the B warranty....the watch has a ton of complications...more complications means more things can go wrong...so the warranty is pretty valuable if you're going to be keeping this one. My MBO had a problem with the movement and BUSA fixed it and made it look brand new.

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I know for sure my AD has one of these in stock, because we spoke about it when I was last in-- he mentioned that they were almost impossible to get right now, which drew my attention to it.

Beautiful watch, though.


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mfserge wrote:
...the watch has a ton of complications...more complications means more things can go wrong...so the warranty is pretty valuable if you're going to be keeping this one.
VERY good point. Thanks for pointing that out.

Justin, I'll check it out. Costco may not be the only game in town with this one, but I'll check to be sure.

Thanks, everyone, for your input. I learn more every time I log on to this place. Great forum.


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anez wrote:
he mentioned that they were almost impossible to get right now, which drew my attention to it.
Well, see...who do you believe? Any chance your AD was talking it up to increase your interest in it?


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Hard to get implies still available. SA's can be hard to get, no question they are available.

My take on the complications is, if I feel it has too many and it's risky if it will work right, that it might need warranty and I'm not prepared to have no warranty, warranty is not lifetime. If I give my brother a free ferrari and he can't afford the upkeep, what did I really give him? Pass to another option. Nice to have warranty, but I would consider it 5% of my decision making.


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I just checked back with all of the Basel announcements and I was incorrect - Montbrillant Olympus was announced as being discontinued back in March - I missed that one with all of the other announcements.

So it will become more scarce as time goes on, but likely still be able to find them at ADs for another few months.


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Good job Roff!


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JacksonStone wrote:
Well, see...who do you believe? Any chance your AD was talking it up to increase your interest in it?


Most likely. :D It would be terrible practice to lie, though, and as Roff has since explained, it is true.

I do like the style, but not for me personally; I can't wear something that is quite that large and that busy on the dial; I only have a 5.5" wrist, and I'm pretty sure the AD in question knows that. (I'm also not a fan of interrupted arabics, which is the one thing I don't like about the Airwolf Raven, and this has the same issue but even more so.)


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Thanks, Roff. I appreciate the info, and your taking the time to get it. Also, I see now that the thread I linked to earlier was about the Navitimer Olympus, and not the Montbrillant Olympus. Hence, their concern over the scarcity of the NO obviously doesn't apply to the MO.

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It would be terrible practice to lie, though, and as Roff has since explained, it is true.

I do like the style, but not for me personally; I can't wear something that is quite that large and that busy on the dial.
There's a difference between lying and simply exaggerating a degree or two of scarcity. Seems to me a number of more-or-less ethical salespeople might still bend the truth a little bit for the sake of increasing interest.

The MB size is a good fit for my 6.5" wrists, but I agree that the dial is pretty busy. The blue is relegated to a relatively small portion of the center, with the white slide rule taking up the outer edge. The matching subdials help a little, though, I think. I'll go back to take another look and see how it strikes me. Maybe on subsequent viewings I won't like it as well. At any rate, it seems I don't need to rush right out and try to snag it.

Thanks again for everybody's input.


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mfserge wrote:
With the MB Olympus you are better off buying from an AD and having the B warranty....the watch has a ton of complications...more complications means more things can go wrong...so the warranty is pretty valuable if you're going to be keeping this one. My MBO had a problem with the movement and BUSA fixed it and made it look brand new.


You Are Absolutely Correct - The More Complications, The More Things Can Go Wrong!

I Am Very Happy With My 1461/52 & Thankfully I Bought It From An AD. I Did Buy Pre-Owned & After A Week Or So Of Ownership I Noticed That Their Was An Issue And It Needed To Be Sent To BUSA. However, After I Got It Back It Has Worked Flawlessly.

The Repair Cost Me Nothing It Was Under Warranty From The AD, Henceforth It Does Pay To Buy From An AD (At Times Anyways - lol)

The 1461/52 - Is Basically The Same Watch But Instead Of The Moon-phases It Counts Off The Weeks Of The Year And As A Result It Is
Caliber 38.

I Know That That Watch At Costco Can Be Found Or One Similar - Pre-Owned From An AD At A Much More Economical Price Point With A Real Warranty & With Your Savings You Can Go Food Shopping For The Family At Costco If You Insist On Shopping Their! lol.

Best Of Luck!

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5.5" wrist


For the first time in my life I feel burly.

You will be able to find the watch at an AD. There are already a couple out of state sources for you here where you can get a good discount AND no sales tax - PM Fear or jnelson. If the ADs don't have it, they can still get it.

Now knowing it's discontinued I feel fortunate to have picked one up a couple months ago. I looked at it at every trip to the AD. Then one day they said - "oh, did you know you had $1700 in Platinum Rewards points?" I didn't know what they were but when I found out it was on top of the regular discount - tada!!! I'm not sure where else you can get a watch with that degree of complications and quality for 5 figures, even if you don't have "Platinum Rewards Points." And full lumed arabics to boot!

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