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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:43 am 
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Since... I received my watch back from BUSA yesterday, since shipping came back by 2nd air, and it somehow came overnight, so I was excited to see it back. So, I set up the time / date again just how the manual says.. but...

I put the watch on at 12pm, and I wore it all day... Then, I wanted to try my new watch winder since I bought it while my watch was getting fixed. I watched to watch it a little since Ive never had one just to see how they work. But, this morning, I pulled it out of the winder, and... I couldnt figure why the time was stuck on 12am...

I couldnt figure why it could have been stuck on 12am since... even the winder could have filled it up some and keep running. That cant be a good sign if you wear a watch from 12pm --- 12am and totally dies.

How can this happen to me? I was in the hospital for 6 months this year, and i wear it when i get home.... and it was broken, and now its broken again on the FIRST day I get it back from BUSA!?

I was planned on going to my AD to pick up my croc and buckle today, and I'm thinking of asking them how this could happen.

edit: 1 thing I just noticed once I woke up, and the pusher for the chrono was really stuck. It seemed too weird to me, and I didnt touch it because I think its making me feel insane now.

Unless theres something my AD says, then.... its back to BUSA again. :cry:
I emailed BUSA on tuesday once they said it was being shipped that day, and I was interesting to know if theres a short warranty with the repair? I was just making sure because I already got lucky getting my watch fixed since my warranty ended in april this year.

What should I do??

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I believe work done at BUSA is warrenteed for 1 year.

Could you describe the problem a bit more? Have you fully wound the watch and observed how long it takes for the power reserve to deplete? Also, you mention the pusher is stuck? Can you describe what you mean here?

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I believe work done at BUSA is warrenteed for 1 year.

Could you describe the problem a bit more? Have you fully wound the watch and observed how long it takes for the power reserve to deplete? Also, you mention the pusher is stuck? Can you describe what you mean here?


Well, I got it back from them, and it was partly wound from them, so I setup the time/date like normally in the manual. I did not wound manually today, but it was in the winder all night. I double checked to make sure it was on. It was working @ clockwise and even observed it about 2-5 mins before bed and I didnt think looking at the watch carefully until this morning. Well, It seemed that the pusher chrono was stuck, and I figured that the watch was stopped. I didnt want to make it worse until I asked my AD.

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I would first suggest that you manually wind it. If you do that does the watch start running? Also, you said that one of the pushers for the chrono was stuck. When you manually wind it does the chrono start running?


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1) It was not partially wound from BUSA - if it was running it was from the motion during shipping - in other words the power reserve was low
2) Winders don't wind watches, they prevent watches from running down
3) Not winding the watch and wearing it for a short period will not restore a full power reserve.

Dollars to doughnuts the only thing that you need to do is give it a full wind.

I don't understand the pusher part so can't comment there.


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I would first suggest that you manually wind it. If you do that does the watch start running? Also, you said that one of the pushers for the chrono was stuck. When you manually wind it does the chrono start running?



I just wound it 15x times just to try it. I'm afraid hitting the pusher for the chrono since the second hand in the 24hr dial. I really think its stuck.

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Roffensian wrote:
1) It was not partially wound from BUSA - if it was running it was from the motion during shipping - in other words the power reserve was low
2) Winders don't wind watches, they prevent watches from running down
3) Not winding the watch and wearing it for a short period will not restore a full power reserve.

Dollars to doughnuts the only thing that you need to do is give it a full wind.

I don't understand the pusher part so can't comment there.


I had assumed it was wound at BUSA. Thanks for that info. But, I just wound it up to almost 40x wound... but it still wont run. Also, since its a partly question for this... since I got it back probably from shipping motion since, and for other cases, how do you know it being safe for wounding it again. For instance.. you were to wound it 40x, and then you dont wear it for a whole day part of the reserve, what is the safe way to fill the reserve back.

I think I'll be sending it back to BUSA again. It has to be some repair accident? I cant understand this.

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OsearyDrakoulias wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
1) It was not partially wound from BUSA - if it was running it was from the motion during shipping - in other words the power reserve was low
2) Winders don't wind watches, they prevent watches from running down
3) Not winding the watch and wearing it for a short period will not restore a full power reserve.

Dollars to doughnuts the only thing that you need to do is give it a full wind.

I don't understand the pusher part so can't comment there.


I had assumed it was wound at BUSA. Thanks for that info. But, I just wound it up to almost 40x wound... but it still wont run. Also, since its a partly question for this... since I got it back probably from shipping motion since, and for other cases, how do you know it being safe for wounding it again. For instance.. you were to wound it 40x, and then you dont wear it for a whole day part of the reserve, what is the safe way to fill the reserve back.

I think I'll be sending it back to BUSA again. It has to be some repair accident? I cant understand this.


You can't overwind an automatic - you can wind it 400 times and there won't be a problem.

If it's not running (i.e. running seconds not turning) with a full wind then try rotating the watch through 360 degrees as you look at the face - i.e. rotate the crown to 12, 9, 6, etc. If the watch is out of beat then that should get it running.

I still don't understand the 'stuck pusher' so not sure whether that is contributing to your problems. If you are going to the AD anyway, get them to take a look if you aren't sure before shipping it back.


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Roffensian wrote:
OsearyDrakoulias wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
1) It was not partially wound from BUSA - if it was running it was from the motion during shipping - in other words the power reserve was low
2) Winders don't wind watches, they prevent watches from running down
3) Not winding the watch and wearing it for a short period will not restore a full power reserve.

Dollars to doughnuts the only thing that you need to do is give it a full wind.

I don't understand the pusher part so can't comment there.




You can't overwind an automatic - you can wind it 400 times and there won't be a problem.

If it's not running (i.e. running seconds not turning) with a full wind then try rotating the watch through 360 degrees as you look at the face - i.e. rotate the crown to 12, 9, 6, etc. If the watch is out of beat then that should get it running.

I still don't understand the 'stuck pusher' so not sure whether that is contributing to your problems. If you are going to the AD anyway, get them to take a look if you aren't sure before shipping it back.


I had assumed it was wound at BUSA. Thanks for that info. But, I just wound it up to almost 40x wound... but it still wont run. Also, since its a partly question for this... since I got it back probably from shipping motion since, and for other cases, how do you know it being safe for wounding it again. For instance.. you were to wound it 40x, and then you dont wear it for a whole day part of the reserve, what is the safe way to fill the reserve back.

I think I'll be sending it back to BUSA again. It has to be some repair accident? I cant understand this.


Thats good to know that I cant overwind it. I thought going too far and would overstretch the spring (sp?) I'm going to the AD pretty soon before another appt. for my recovering from cancer. This just isnt my year. :(

I'll update my thread once I get back later.

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Roffensian wrote:
OsearyDrakoulias wrote:
Roffensian wrote:
1) It was not partially wound from BUSA - if it was running it was from the motion during shipping - in other words the power
If it's not running (i.e. running seconds not turning) with a full wind then try rotating the watch through 360 degrees as you look at the face - i.e. rotate the crown to 12, 9, 6, etc. If the watch is out of beat then that should get it running.


Roff-If it winds clockwise wouldn't he need to rotate it from 12, 3, 6, 9, etc?


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First of all:

Beating cancer, respect, awesome stuff and all the best for your recovery, you fought and won!!

Your watch cannot be overwound, there is a clutch that slips once the resistance is too big, no damage will ever get to the mainspring, otherwise wearing the watch when it's fully wound would overwind it too, which is not the case. So you are fine.

2nd. maybe something is stuck with the chrono and the normal movement. wind it up, go through all funcitons start, stop, reset and see what happens. This is what the watch is supposed to endure, so even if you harm anything, the guarantee kicks in,because this is what the watch is supposed to do, no worries there.

I bet once you ran through all, you and the watch will be fine.

Keep us updated.
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john123 wrote:
Roff-If it winds clockwise wouldn't he need to rotate it from 12, 3, 6, 9, etc?


We're not trying to wind the watch, just get the balance wheel moving - makes no difference which way you turn it.


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I'm back. I stopped by my AD to pick up my croc, buckle, and such.. and I showed them my watch how it was totally stuck at 12am last night. The first person took a look with a loop and he said something is weird and brought it back room to be checked better. They opened it up and they found this..

He said the hands were actually hitting eachother when the date hand is what totally stopped the watch. The balance is actually moving, and it had reserve in it still. I think he mentioned that. However... they wound it up and set it up again after he adjusted the hands a little so they wont hit eachother again. It works perfect again!

They said to definitely dont use my winder for a week and leave it on my table when I go to sleep and watch it to make sure its still running @ COSC number. If its really not working still, then just sending back to breitling and have them fix it again unless it works fine now. :)

So, I was happy leaving my AD with my new straps and such, and a working watch again. It was very nice for them opening it up to fix it without me waiting another 2 months with it at BUSA again. I will say... its very important by having very nice people at your AD. :lingsrock: :lingsrock:

Thanks for all the responses for my thread too. :)

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Glad that you got it sorted. Sounds like either the hand wasn't pressed on properly or got knocked in transit.


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Glad that you got it sorted. Sounds like either the hand wasn't pressed on properly or got knocked in transit.


Thanks! Pretty strange, I think. I wonder if it happens sometimes.

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