Watch Winder Question

L30N · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 2:28 pm

I use a Rapport one and apart from the great looks ( I got a carbon fibre one ) and sturdy design , it goes well on the essential part of a winder as well . So far so good.

GZGym1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:03 pm

mfserge wrote:

GZGym1 wrote:

I also use a Brookstone. mfserge..do you have an older model without all these setting choices? The rest periods seem to be okay.. I think..Maybe not?

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=21350 This is the thread i started asking about correct TPD.

http://www.brookstone.com/watch-winders ... 7C10373017 This is the link directly to the winder I have from Brookstone.

After almost 2 years the winder is still working perfectly! Quiet as ever!

Yup that's the one I have, and honestly I absolutely love it. It's not an older verision...at least I hope not they're only a few months old. Roff previously advised me that the rest period is significantly to short. Mine winds for a minute, then rests for a minute, then winds for a minute, then rests etc.. Does yours do that as well? I was told that the rest period isn't long enough which kinda makes sense. Aside from that I couldn't be happier with these winders. I previous had a cheapo one that was noisy and a very hurky jerky motion, the brookstone is perfectly smooth and I love how all the watches finish in an upright position. Makes for a very nice presenation.

Good to know it's been two years for you with no issues.....maybe I won't be upgrading now. I'm crazy, I bought a small bookcase to display them.

Hmm I guess I would consider the rest period about the same as wearing your watch. Sit and your watch doesnt wind that it moves once around then sits etc.. Maybe not..Roff?

If you look back in the thread contained in my previous post you can see the settings that are available.

GZGym1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:05 pm

john123 wrote:

I have the Brookstone dual winder...and mine is about a minute on then a minute off. Why exactly is it that the rest period is not long enough? I am very happy with mine as well and thought of upgrading to the quad that Brookstone makes, but may not if the rest period is not long enough.

Not sure about why the rest period isnt long enough. I think its because its not long enough for the mainspring to lose a bit of tension. The quad I would think would have the same winding settings as the double, the only difference would be the addition of two more spots for watches.

Roffensian · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:30 pm

The point of rest periods is to allow the watch to operate other than at a fully wound mainspring. When a watch is fully wound the spring is putting the maximum amount of tension through the running train. Although that is controlled to a degree, it's still not good for the watch to be at maximum mainspring tension for extended periods.

john123 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:34 pm

Thanks for the explanation...so what would be an ideal period of rest between turns?

Roffensian · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:59 pm

john123 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation...so what would be an ideal period of rest between turns?

Well that's a little bit like asking how long is a bit of string, but....

If the cycle has 'downtime' - i.e. a period within the 24 hour cycle when there is no activity at all then the rest between turns is less important, but you still want to have something that will only give you the minimum number of rotations required within a 24 hour period, and try to have winding in 'bursts'. Typically something like 5 minutes on, 20 minutes off would be a nice model. The math behind this can get stoopid, and I suspect that I am rather anal about it, but I'm OK with that :lol:

GZGym1 · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:42 pm

Damn Roff now you got me thinking I need a new winder.

john123 · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:58 am

Roffensian wrote:

john123 wrote:

Thanks for the explanation...so what would be an ideal period of rest between turns?

Well that's a little bit like asking how long is a bit of string, but....

If the cycle has 'downtime' - i.e. a period within the 24 hour cycle when there is no activity at all then the rest between turns is less important, but you still want to have something that will only give you the minimum number of rotations required within a 24 hour period, and try to have winding in 'bursts'. Typically something like 5 minutes on, 20 minutes off would be a nice model. The math behind this can get stoopid, and I suspect that I am rather anal about it, but I'm OK with that :lol:

Thanks Roff...makes perfect sense.

L30N · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:04 pm

GZGym1 wrote:

Damn Roff now you got me thinking I need a new winder.

More expensive winders like the Rapport I use right now , have that option of 1 minute on /1 minute off , so I guess it is not :arrow:

THAT harmful .

Roffensian · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:54 pm

L30N wrote:

GZGym1 wrote:

Damn Roff now you got me thinking I need a new winder.

More expensive winders like the Rapport I use right now , have that option of 1 minute on /1 minute off , so I guess it is not :arrow:

THAT harmful .

Rapport isn't really high end.

Orbita cycles generally have 22 to 42 minute rest periods (depending on the number of rotations).

OsearyDrakoulias · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 10:58 am

I was just thinking about buying the brookstone winder. I'm also not interested in buying a 1k winder since I only have 1 auto watch my navitimer.

noeldownunder · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:45 pm

I posted my complaints about my new winders about 12 months ago . The winders were set to rotate 600 tpd but a check revealed they were winding 2000 tpd which is 1400 too many for most Breitlings . Rather than throw them in the bin I bought a couple of $15 electric timers from an electronics store . I watched the winder for 5 minutes and counted the revolutions , multiplied that by 6 to get revolutions per half hour . Then I set the 24 hour timer to turn on the power to the winder as it needs . I have it on for 30 minutes , off for two hours , on for 30 minutes and off , and so on till I get my 650 tpd for my Cockpit and Steelfish ( recent addition ) and 800 tpd for my Chronomat . This fully winds the watches over a period of a few hours then gives the watch a break of up to 18 hours to wind down again . This enables you to set it any way you may care to .

GZGym1 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:53 pm

noeldownunder wrote:

I posted my complaints about my new winders about 12 months ago . The winders were set to rotate 600 tpd but a check revealed they were winding 2000 tpd which is 1400 too many for most Breitlings . Rather than throw them in the bin I bought a couple of $15 electric timers from an electronics store . I watched the winder for 5 minutes and counted the revolutions , multiplied that by 6 to get revolutions per half hour . Then I set the 24 hour timer to turn on the power to the winder as it needs . I have it on for 30 minutes , off for two hours , on for 30 minutes and off , and so on till I get my 650 tpd for my Cockpit and Steelfish ( recent addition ) and 800 tpd for my Chronomat . This fully winds the watches over a period of a few hours then gives the watch a break of up to 18 hours to wind down again . This enables you to set it any way you may care to .

Where is this thread? Can you post a link please?

UofRSpider · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 6:11 pm

I have an Eilux and really like it. Very quiet. http://www.eilux.com/ I believe mine rotates 12 minutes every 2 hours. It currently winds my Breitling SO Steelfish, my Maurice Lacroix Masterpiece, as well as my Rolex DSSD for months now and does wonderful.

GZGym1 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:59 am

Do they have any inline AD's. I dont see a spot on their website to order??? I wont buy from a grey market because you dont get a warranty and as most can agree a warranty can def come in handy when it comes to watch winders.

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