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Specifically for the Calibre 11 / 12 models with the micro rotor, yes.

Hi Lou:

Since you have a red date you have a calibre 12.

With both the calibre 11 and 12, you can "quick change" the date by cycling the hours back and forth between 10 and 2 o'clock (move forward to "2" and backward to "10" and keep repeating).

Wind your watch first then wear it and let the micro-rotor do its job. If the stem came out of the case it should be easy to reinstall. When you do, add a small amount of stem oil to make it easier to wind.

Since the stem came out just after purchase, I would send the watch back to the seller to have him reinstall it.

Nice watch....enjoy!

"I would send the watch back to the seller to have him reinstall it"

I've done this step by myself a few seconds later simply screwing it at its place: is that so simple? where exactly should i put the oil, around the screw or inside the case?

thanks a lot for helping chronomania

now, given the above "DIAGNOSIS" need to understand the difference between maintenance and repairing: it's my new watch broken or more simply needs maintenance? I mean crown falling down
i ask so because, if it's only maintenance i could arrange a meeting with my usual seller not far from where i live. on the contrary, if it needs an expensive service, i'll send it back to the reseller (i live in italy and reseller is in germany, so i'll have to use express courier with its costs )
hope you understand what i mean

one more thing... the stem didn'd come out, only the winding crown fell in my hand

thanks again

Lou

Hi Lou:

To firmly re-attach the crown, you will have to remove the stem from the movement first. The stem would be placed in a pin vise and then the crown screwed on from there. A very small amount of stem oil where the crown rides on the crown (stem) tube.

If your movement hasn't been overhauled for some time, you should get it completely overhauled. The crown could be re-attached as part of the overhaul.

I think it definitely needs a maintenance service.

The harsh winding suggests a lack of lubrication around the castle gears and potentially even all the way through the keyless work. Additionally, there may be dirt in the movement if the crown is loose.

The reseller has been notified
In a few days i'll send him my watch for a due service

Thanks for your opinions

Luigi

a last question...
i like so much this chrono so i'd like to get it with me for a short time i.e. 2-3 weeks.
if i do not wind it or maybe i wind it only a few turn a day will it be harmful to my baby?

thank you all for your patience

Lou

That's an impossible question to answer without knowing what's wrong, but I wouldn't do it.

The fact that the crown unscrewed from the stem indicates excess friction in the keyless works. I have a 1809 Cosmo with the cal. 11 movement. The keyless works have a more noticeable click feel during the reverse motion when winding the watch by the crown than the later models. I would let the seller service the watch if it were me.

The micro-rotor is between the plates instead of outside. There is very little clearance and as the bushing wears it lets the rotor drag on the plate. A new micro-rotor is almost impossible to find. I've heard on this site there might be some down under, but I don't know of any in the USA.

It is safe to move the time back and forth between 10 and 2 in order to advance the date.

I've been repairing timepieces for over 50 years and I do not oil the stem. Someone else may do it and that is up to them. I will sometimes put a small amount of light grease on the winding pinion and clutch interface area based on the particular movement. The case tube, stem and crown are areas where dirt can be introduced if the gasket is worn. Oil in that area would trap dust and dirt which would eventually form an abrasive.

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too kind... but i'm not a tecnician

i only know that reseller sold me this watch as "Komplett revisionierter" that should mean something like "just overhauled"
so i'll ship it back for its due service free of charge

Lou

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Hi there,
to cut a long story short, today i show my new 2111 to my usual dealer.
first of all he told me that it's a very nice piece; after that he kindly checked my watch and also fixed that annoying falling crown problem.
Finally, talking about what we called "harsh winding" he smiled and said: you have too many Rolex, my dear, this is a totally different watch, forgive that smoothness... it's not depending from lubrication
Wind it from time to time (once every 2 months); but remember that despite its very young look it's a forty years old buddy.

After that i went home quite happy with my chrono.

Lou

Well, I have one myself and I wouldn't say the winding is smooth as butter either... there is some slight resistance but almost the same as my manual winders... and it doesn't seem to have any problems yet...

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